May 23, 2009
Offline1892takedown said
My favorite of all-time is Dances with Wolves in the dramatic scene where Kostner is shooting at the buffalo with his Henry rifle, and if thats not bad enough, his Henry has no cartridges in it.
As others have pointed out if you watch the movie again you can see where the follower is moving throughout those scenes. Uberti started selling a lot more of their Henry reproductions after the movie. One detail that I like is the fact they used Black Powder blanks in the movie.
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I watched a interview the other day about the making of the movie and Costner talked about setting up the scene with the rancher to do the buffalo run. The first time they tried it all the Indians and Costner forgot to fire at the buffalo as they were so taken aback at just watching the buffalo stampede. I think they said they ran the buffalo for like 2 or 3 days and after that they couldn’t do it any more. The buffalo were done and had enough!
That is one of those movies if I’m flipping channels and its on I get stuck watching it! Along with anything Sergio Leone made.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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March 8, 2023
OfflineHi Guys,
I like this topic because I have always watched the guns to the point people say how can I enjoy a movie if I watch the guns to see if they are right. I read several books years ago by Ron Hanson. A review of The Kid said that a Ruger Vaquero was mentioned as a “Kid” weapon. I am sure Bill the Kid did not use Vaquero’s but I never bought the book to find out.
Back to Sam Elliot, I like most of his movies and I think he did the part of Tell Sackett justice to the point that he was Tell Sackett. I remember I saw an interview of Louis Lamour back when The Sacketts came out and he pretty much said the Elliot was who he pictured as Tell. It could be argued that Tell Sackett was Lamours most important character. I have read just about every book Lamour wrote and when he mentions Tell Sackett I think of Elliot. I can’t say I like Sam Elliot’s language when he explains his position on something but I liked what he said about the movie director Jane Campion and her gay cowboys.
I use to be able to have discussions with liberals but that hasn’t been the case since at least Obama. I always found it funny that liberals always assume that you agree with them. They always tell you what their position is regardless of whether you want to hear it or not. That is especially true today. As I have gotten older I seem to have lost any filter or pretense of being careful of what might say and don’t really care what people think of me. So if I get handed some BS I don’t agree with or didn’t ask to hear I usually make my position very clear with no unnecessary curse words. It usually shuts them up. With movie stars I would rather not hear about where they stand on a particular topic just because they are famous doesn’t make their opinion any more or less important then mine. When I watch a movie, especially a western, I don’t want to think about what their opinions are I’d rather watch if they got the guns right.
Rob
November 7, 2015
OfflineGood, Bad and Ugly could also describe the prop guns in one of my favorite Westerns. The early close-up on the front ramp sight of an 1894 stuck out worse than usual as I’m (finally!) reading Renneberg’s Trilogy but the revolvers couldn’t decide if they were percussion or cartridge weapons, even a percussion revolver in a cartridge belt. All in a movie set in 1862. They managed to slip in one Henry that looked right and the extras playing soldiers were apparently re-enactors who brought their own weapons. The last weapon used in the movie was some sort of octagon-barreled carbine that I wasn’t able to identify. I know it wasn’t a Winchester but I’m betting one of our sharp-eyed members knows what it was.
Mike
December 13, 2006
OfflineHenry Mero said
There were a lot of 1870’s-80’s post civil war “battles” fought on the siver screen and t.v., with Winchester 1894′ s and 1892’s and others, that weren’t yet manufactured. How ever it made for great entertainment when I was a kid and didn’t know the difference and wouldn’t have cared any ways, it was always so great to see the “white hat” guys over come insurmountable odds and beat up on the “black hat” guys in the end. I usually wear a black stetson hat and I’ll be damned if it’ll stay on My head when I’m on the Harley, unlike those fellas that seldom lost their hat while on horseback during a wild chase.
After reading this old thread, I was reminded . . .
Remember the old, 1930’s “oaters” stars like Ken Maynard?
When in a barroom fight, his white hat was never knocked off his head!!
November 7, 2015
OfflineA few years back I wrote an article about a Model 1841 Mississippi Rifle that was likely used by a member of the 4th Texas Cavalry in a Civil War battle at Glorieta, NM and the related campaign. While researching the article some of the names seemed familiar. I thought the Glorieta battle was mentioned in the movie Outlaw Josey Wales but recently discovered that it was part of the backdrop for the Good, Bad and Ugly. Eastwood movies often have interesting firearms, even if not necessarily correct.
Mike
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