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old eyes; eyeglasses and iron sights
November 8, 2019
12:41 pm
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I hope this is suitable for the GENERAL DISCUSSION section; the subject must have been discussed somewhere, sometime in recent years, but I have not found it.

If any older shooters have solved the problem of aging eyes adapting to their rifle’s iron sights, in combination with their eyeglasses, I would be interested in hearing of what has worked.

In the COMPLETE BOOOK OF SHOOTING, Jack O’Connor refers in Chapter 6, to “….some aging shooters hang a gadget with a little hole in it on the lens of the spectacle they use for aiming. Then because they are aiming through a small aperture, everything -- rear sight, front sight, and the target – is sharp like a picture taken by a camera with the lens aperture set at F. 22.”

I know nothing more of such a device, and am unaware if it is supposed to be practical for hunting or just target shooting. Has anyone on here have experience with it?

It is understood that telescopic sights are best for those with diminished eyesight, except possibly for rainy or snowy conditions; but my question relates only to using eyeglasses and iron sights in combination.

Jack O’Connor favored telescopic sights on his rifles, being more of an open-country and not a dense-woods hunter. However, there are photos of him in his early years, fully-bespectacled, posing with rifles he has just used to harvest big game. Some of those rifles he used as a young man by all appearances did not have telescopic sights.

November 8, 2019
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Stumpstalker, and others,  YES, there are various such devices.  I have some experience with them but only in regards to shooting paper.  If you will peruse the catalogs of such supply houses as Brownells, Midway, etc, I am sure you will see various versions.  Some are flexible plastic decal like things that cling to your glasses via static electricity and you place where you will look through it with your master eye.  I have no experience with this version but have been around others that use it with various effect.  Another, relatively inexpensive one clips to the frame of your glasses, and is able to flip up out of the way or down over the lens of your master eye.  It is a black, rigid material with rotatable disk so you can determine the diameter of the aperture you wish to use.  It worked for me for years.  Then there are the more expensive ones made with a suction cup that sticks to the lens and has an aperture that goes over the lens of the master eye.  It also worked for a while.  Now, please note the "for a while".  Seems over time I had more and more issues with my vision.  When it comes to shooting in our silhouette shoots, aperture sights on the "open sight" rifles seem to do better for me.  Vee sights are pretty much a thing of the past except on bright, sunny days.  Individual opinions and circumstances will yield different recommendations and results, no doubt!  I have cataracts, and am very near sighted.   I wear contacts and the more they try to help my distant vision the harder it is to use open sights.  If I was hunting with open sights, then I would go with a peep type sight and keep my full field of vision for detecting game.

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November 8, 2019
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stumpstalker said

I know nothing more of such a device, and am unaware if it is supposed to be practical for hunting or just target shooting. Has anyone on here have experience with it?
  

Target shooting ONLY, & even then they're aggravating to use...as O'Conner should have made clear.  All you have to do to find out for yourself is tape a piece of black paper with a pin-hole punched in it over the right side of your eyeglasses; makes peeping through a keyhole seem like Cinerama.

If you're not shooting with a tang or receiver sight, combined with a highly visible front sight (maybe even one of those with a florescent insert, though I dislike the look of them), you're doing it the hard way.  For target shooting, I use shooting glasses corrected for the distance to the front sight, but of course the target itself is blurred, so such glasses are totally impractical for hunting. 

An aperture front sight is the "standard" in competition paper-punching, & Marbles once made a hunting front sight on the same principle (the V.M. model), but I tried one & found it unsatisfactory under most field conditions.  However, it's another angle to try out for yourself; if you can't find one of the Marbles, a common Lyman 17a fitted with a large aperture would allow you to judge if it might work for you.

November 10, 2019
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My mid-50s eyes still provide "Okay" distance vision (using drug store readers) but the sights are a no go, particularly when shooting my pistols. I found some glasses that really make sense for this situation ; SSP Eyewear. They have the bifocal on top! Wish I would have thought of it.

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November 10, 2019
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I’ve had some success with purpose-built shooting glasses but it requires an optometrist and optician that understand your goals. My shooting glasses have a prescription that allows me to focus on my front sight and flying clays with a small “reading” insert for adjusting sights and checking headstamps or box labels. My other “solution” involves buying rifles with aperture sights for “shooters”. 

 

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rwsem said
My mid-50s eyes still provide "Okay" distance vision (using drug store readers) but the sights are a no go, particularly when shooting my pistols. I found some glasses that really make sense for this situation ; SSP Eyewear. They have the bifocal on top! Wish I would have thought of it.  

I can't see the front and rear sights and the target at the same time like many of our age.  When shooting a pistol I just put the front sight on the target and if you learn to hold your gun the same way each time you can get good accuracy.  Have you ever heard "in a fight front sight"?  Shooting with both eyes open helps too.  I just use my prescription glasses and can get by with the rifles but a scope really helps.  I also have a set of computer glasses with my prescription in them.  These are my favorite glasses.  I wear them to do most anything except distance.  They are made to have the bottom part for a reading distance and the upper part for the computer distance. Most things at an arms reach are in focus but distance is a little out of focus.  Just another fun part of getting old...

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