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New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873
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Zebulon
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November 2, 2026 - 9:09 pm
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I was thinking of ordering some RNFP 200 grain .430 bullets for Model 73 Sporting Rifle, and asking for a 16 to 1 alloy. (Browning specs a .429 groove diameter for all its 44 Winchester rifles, a useful idea for maker and customer.) Do you happen to know the typical Brinnell number for that alloy? 

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Zebulon said
Very handsome, Bryan and it makes me happy to see you using it for what it was intended. 
I’m waiting on a Miroku-built Winchester 1885 made up as part of Browning’s Traditional Hunter series. A limited edition, it is NIB although built in 2004, chambered in 38-55. It comes furnished with a tang micrometer sight (looks like the windage adjustable Marble’s) but  I’ve started to study the modern reproductions of the Malcolm scopes.  Do you have any suggestions or recommendations?
  

I AM JELOUS!!! LOL

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slk said
I would like to add an additional question here.  If ya had a choice what would you choose chambered in 45 colt or the 44/40 for the 1873??Any reasons for either. 
  

Considering the 45 Colt is a pistol cartridge and the 44-40 is a pistol sized rifle cartridge…..

If you are looking for “Minute of Deer” accuracy, availability, and ease of loading…get the 45 Colt and use it for the pistol cartridge it is at less than 150 yards.

If you are looking to treat the 44-40 like the rifle cartridge it is…get the 44-40 and deal with the demand for handloads to get what you need.

If you can handle 300 yards or further, like those before us did, better learn how to load the 44-40.

Early Years 44-40 target competitions: https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/targets?authuser=0

visit the 2026 300 yard targets: https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/targets/targets-load-development/2026-targets?authuser=0

…and of course, the 44-40 Doc Pardee Club: https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/doc-pardee-club?authuser=0

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Zebulon said
I was thinking of ordering some RNFP 200 grain .430 bullets for Model 73 Sporting Rifle, and asking for a 16 to 1 alloy. (Browning specs a .429 groove diameter for all its 44 Winchester rifles, a useful idea for maker and customer.) Do you happen to know the typical Brinnell number for that alloy? 
  

I generally go with 20-1 for BP cartridges (about 11 BHN) and I think 16-1 is the ratio noted on old ammo boxes. That would be about 10 BHN. Hardness rating sometimes varies with casting methods, impurities, age and testing methods so I just shoot for a ratio that works for my guns. Some commercial casters may offer a limited menu of alloys, 16-1 may be harder to find than 20-1 but I really haven’t looked around enough to know. Changing alloys is a chore, that’s why I have four furnaces and three standard alloys.

 

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