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HI,
newbe, 
I’ve not found how to point the differences between COOEY and New Haven products.
Have they serail numbers different ?
markings different ?
what else ?
gérard
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Gerard,
The COOEY manufactured firearms should all be marked Cobourg Ontario somewhere on them (most likely the barrel). Also, the Model number will identify where it was made. None of the COOEY made firearms share the same Model number designation as the firearms manufactured at the New Haven, CONN factory.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
The only Winchester and Cooey firearm that I am aware of that have the same Model number is the Model 71.The Winchester Model 71 is a lever action,while the Cooey Model 71 is a bolt action.
I believe the Model 2400 and 2200 shotguns were assembled in Canada at one time.Seem to remember them being advertised in the old Cooey catalogues as being assembled in Canada with Canadian hardwood stocks and forends.
Seems to me I remember a Model 670 being assembled in Canada as well and something about the Model 94 being assembled here for a time as well.All used U.S. made parts that I remember.
Bert Was the Cooey brand only made in Canada at the Coburg plant? Was it an econo brand? Was it sold at all in US? They generally look cheaply made , but are very accurate .I learned to shoot as a Kid with the cheapest model single shot (less than $20 ) my Dad insisted would be good enough , and he was right. I have recently bought a couple of the better single shot models that were in a local Auction Mod 75 and 82 They are not top of the line World competetion guns like the Anschutz 54 or later Win mod 52, in the trigger and looks, by any stretch, but amazingly accurate with good target ammo
Phil
Yes the Cooey firearms were only made in the plant in Ontario.Winchester bought out Cooey in 1961 and took over the plant.
The Winchester Model 370 , 37A and Winchester Cooey Model 84 and 840 were made at this plant.They were all versions of the old Cooey Model 84 which was introduced in 1948.
Thanks 28 gauge , my favorite Skeet ga also, Used to be great for ruffed Grouse as well. My Cooeys are pre ser#. I wounder if they started ser# in 1968 ?
Phil
I do not know 25-20.There is so much about H.W.Cooey and Winchester Cooey firearms that seems to be unknown or lost.About 25 or 30 years ago I was in contact with a fellow who was going to write a book on Cooey firearms.Sent him what information I had and some pictures of Cooey firearms I had and some friends had for his book.Not sure what happened to him,but the book was never published.
Every so often I will have talks with people about the old Cooey Company and we try to put together something that makes sense ,but it is not easy.
The Winchester Model 490 .22 was made in Canada at the old Cooey plant in Cobourg.
When Winchester took over the plant the Model 84 was kept as it was for awhile.The only difference being Winchester Western Canada Limited being marked on the side rather than H.W Cooey.Later on the Model 84 became the Model 840 and was cheapened up a lot.The early ones still used the walnut stocks and forends of the Model 84,but the maple/birch stocks forends came into use as the old walnut was used up.At the same time the Winchester Model 370 was introduced.It was much the same as the 840 except the 840 had stampings on the stock and the 370 did not.Later the 370 received some up grades and became the Winchester Model 37A,walnut stocks and forends,gold trigger etc.The 840 was continued ,at least for awhile,but had the fuller forend of the 37A and birch/maple stocks forends, that I remember.The 37A and the later 840 shotguns had the up curved hammer spur.
The H.W Cooey Model 84 and the early Winchester/Cooey Model 84 shotguns are the best ones.They have all steel construction and walnut stocks.
Many thanks to all of you.
seems not so clear for “94” , right ?
about “94 :
many “94 Commemoratives were made in Canada : have they special markings ?
– it seems to exist “Cooey made” and “Cooey built” with parts made by New Haven ?
– how to distinguish ?
Seems to me I had a Model 94 .32 Special at one time that said assembled in Canada on the box.This was just a regular Model 94 not a commemorative model.
Have not seen a Model 490 for awhile,but I believe it was stamped on the rifle Made in Canada.I assume the parts were made in the Winchester/Cooey plant in Cobourg,Ontario.The Model 94 rifles it would appear were assembled in Canada using U.S. made parts.
I do not know if the Canadian commemorative models were assembled in Canada or the U.S.
If some here who have the boxes for their rifles would look ,it should say on the box if it were assembled in Canada.Other than the markings on the box I know of no other way to tell.I do not know if the regular or commemorative Model 94 rifles came from a certain block of serial numbers or not.Would be nice to know though.
HI
a friend of mine says :
<< nothing stamped on the box of my LBH commemo
Lucky to have more – empty – commemo’s boxes than very carbines, I can check
even on the RMCP one can read : MADE IN USA>>
28 gauge said
I do not know 25-20.There is so much about H.W.Cooey and Winchester Cooey firearms that seems to be unknown or lost.About 25 or 30 years ago I was in contact with a fellow who was going to write a book on Cooey firearms.Sent him what information I had and some pictures of Cooey firearms I had and some friends had for his book.Not sure what happened to him,but the book was never published.
Every so often I will have talks with people about the old Cooey Company and we try to put together something that makes sense ,but it is not easy.
The Winchester Model 490 .22 was made in Canada at the old Cooey plant in Cobourg.
When Winchester took over the plant the Model 84 was kept as it was for awhile.The only difference being Winchester Western Canada Limited being marked on the side rather than H.W Cooey.Later on the Model 84 became the Model 840 and was cheapened up a lot.The early ones still used the walnut stocks and forends of the Model 84,but the maple/birch stocks forends came into use as the old walnut was used up.At the same time the Winchester Model 370 was introduced.It was much the same as the 840 except the 840 had stampings on the stock and the 370 did not.Later the 370 received some up grades and became the Winchester Model 37A,walnut stocks and forends,gold trigger etc.The 840 was continued ,at least for awhile,but had the fuller forend of the 37A and birch/maple stocks forends, that I remember.The 37A and the later 840 shotguns had the up curved hammer spur.
The H.W Cooey Model 84 and the early Winchester/Cooey Model 84 shotguns are the best ones.They have all steel construction and walnut stocks.
Hello,
I’m the fellow you sent your info and photographs to many moons ago. Cooey Arms is being written as we speak. I have about 400 photographs but still need photographs of some of the rarer guns like Sportsmaster, Straitline, Paramount, Hawkeye, the rest I have covered off quite well. The book will cover all the guns right up until 1980 including all the Commemoratives built in Cobourg along with all the serial table info I can compile. Since we last spoke I have published Bullard Arms (1988), BULLARD Firearms (2002) and EVANS Arms (mid 2018), so Cooey is next. I’ve been compiling info for years but because they manufactured so many guns under so many different names often without serial numbers it’s been a struggle to make it accurate. I have laid out the manuscript in chronological order of introduction rather than by model numbers since they were often out of order. Old copies of gun catalogs showing Cooey rifles would be helpful to me as well.
Your efforts on my behalf were not wasted-your photographs will be in the book.
Best regards,
Scott
Hello Scott ,good to hear from you ,after all these years.A few times over the years ,I have thought about writing to you,but can never seem to be able to find your address,although I know it is in the house somewhere.Great that we were able to meet again here.
Glad to hear your book is going to be published.There are a lot of Winchester/Cooey fans who would enjoy owning a good book on Cooey.Seems you have been busy with other book projects.
Please put me at the top of your list, for some one who wants a copy of the book when it comes out.
scott jamieson said
28 gauge said
I do not know 25-20.There is so much about H.W.Cooey and Winchester Cooey firearms that seems to be unknown or lost.About 25 or 30 years ago I was in contact with a fellow who was going to write a book on Cooey firearms.Sent him what information I had and some pictures of Cooey firearms I had and some friends had for his book.Not sure what happened to him,but the book was never published.
Every so often I will have talks with people about the old Cooey Company and we try to put together something that makes sense ,but it is not easy.
The Winchester Model 490 .22 was made in Canada at the old Cooey plant in Cobourg.
When Winchester took over the plant the Model 84 was kept as it was for awhile.The only difference being Winchester Western Canada Limited being marked on the side rather than H.W Cooey.Later on the Model 84 became the Model 840 and was cheapened up a lot.The early ones still used the walnut stocks and forends of the Model 84,but the maple/birch stocks forends came into use as the old walnut was used up.At the same time the Winchester Model 370 was introduced.It was much the same as the 840 except the 840 had stampings on the stock and the 370 did not.Later the 370 received some up grades and became the Winchester Model 37A,walnut stocks and forends,gold trigger etc.The 840 was continued ,at least for awhile,but had the fuller forend of the 37A and birch/maple stocks forends, that I remember.The 37A and the later 840 shotguns had the up curved hammer spur.
The H.W Cooey Model 84 and the early Winchester/Cooey Model 84 shotguns are the best ones.They have all steel construction and walnut stocks.
Hello,
I’m the fellow you sent your info and photographs to many moons ago. Cooey Arms is being written as we speak. I have about 400 photographs but still need photographs of some of the rarer guns like Sportsmaster, Straitline, Paramount, Hawkeye, the rest I have covered off quite well. The book will cover all the guns right up until 1980 including all the Commemoratives built in Cobourg along with all the serial table info I can compile. Since we last spoke I have published Bullard Arms (1988), BULLARD Firearms (2002) and EVANS Arms (mid 2018), so Cooey is next. I’ve been compiling info for years but because they manufactured so many guns under so many different names often without serial numbers it’s been a struggle to make it accurate. I have laid out the manuscript in chronological order of introduction rather than by model numbers since they were often out of order. Old copies of gun catalogs showing Cooey rifles would be helpful to me as well.
Your efforts on my behalf were not wasted-your photographs will be in the book.
Best regards,
Scott
Hi Scott,
I assume you have a copy of John Beltons little book on Cooey.
I think the Cooey Bisley is the most difficult to find .
Also there is a picture of Mr. Cooey shooting a bolt action single shot shotgun . It looks like a Winchester model 41 but I was always curious if it was not a Win 41 but one of his own make.
28 gauge said
Hello Scott ,good to hear from you ,after all these years.A few times over the years ,I have thought about writing to you,but can never seem to be able to find your address,although I know it is in the house somewhere.Great that we were able to meet again here.
Glad to hear your book is going to be published.There are a lot of Winchester/Cooey fans who would enjoy owning a good book on Cooey.Seems you have been busy with other book projects.
Please put me at the top of your list, for some one who wants a copy of the book when it comes out.
I am also a buyer when the Cooey book is available
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