July 31, 2005
OfflineI was just looking through my worn, sticky-noted and pencil marked copy of “The Winchester Book.” I have owned many Winchester rifles over the years, but never had one that was featured in the book. I do always look when I get another Winchester.
How about you? Do you have any rifles or shotguns that were featured in the book? A previous owner’s collection still counts.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
May 2, 2009
OfflineThe round barrel cutaway 73 in full nickel that is pictured at the bottom of my posts is pictured in it.
Bob

WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's

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November 5, 2014
OfflineHi Bill-
I am strictly a Model 70 collector. I do not own any of the few M70s pictured in Madis’ book. There was one, a M70 Super Grade, pictured in Madis that came up for sale a while ago but I didn’t chase after it. IIRC it had a couple “issues” that worried me.
I do, however, have several M70s pictured in the Rule and/or Whitaker Model 70 books in my collection (“several” may be an understatement depending on your perspective).
Does being pictured in a book “add value”? Or “proof” of legitimacy?? Not IMHO… What it does is to prove that the rifle existed prior to 1981 and 1978, respectively. So at least I know they weren’t faked yesterday… 
Here’s one, pictured in Whitaker’s M70 book. The only one like it that I know of belongs to an esteemed WACA member. They are the same… But it’s not something that would interest a lever gun collector… 

Best,
Lou
WACA 9519; Studying Pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters
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August 25, 2009
OfflineLouis Luttrell said
Hi Bill-
I am strictly a Model 70 collector. I do not own any of the few M70s pictured in Madis’ book. There was one, a M70 Super Grade, pictured in Madis that came up for sale a while ago but I didn’t chase after it. IIRC it had a couple “issues” that worried me.
I do, however, have several M70s pictured in the Rule and/or Whitaker Model 70 books in my collection (“several” may be an understatement depending on your perspective).
Does being pictured in a book “add value”? Or “proof” of legitimacy?? Not IMHO… What it does is to prove that the rifle existed prior to 1981 and 1978, respectively. So at least I know they weren’t faked yesterday…
Here’s one, pictured in Whitaker’s M70 book. The only one like it that I know of belongs to an esteemed WACA member. They are the same… But it’s not something that would interest a lever gun collector…Best,
Lou
Lou,
I do collect lever guns, and I do find it very interesting.
But then again I do like model 70s also 
Doug
November 19, 2006
OfflineI’ve met many people over the years who have assumed that a rifle that was pictured in George’s books was an endorsement that the rifle was completely correct. That is not true for all of them. Many collectors allowed George to photograph rifles (and shotguns) from their collections. That does not mean he inspected each one the way he would when someone would send him a piece for his evaluation.
January 27, 1992
OfflineI have an 1892 Carbine with a ramp front sight pictured in the 1985 edition. It may be in other editions as well. I noticed the serial was missing the last digit in the description. I showed this to Mr. Madis and he added a note in my Book. As I learned later, the barrel markings do not match the serial number time frame. The carbine shows no evidence of being “refinished”, but it is an “iffy”. Mr. Madis, like the rest of us, learned as time went on. RDB p.s. The lower tang has the number 292 stamped on ti.

September 22, 2011
Offlinesteve004 said
I’ve met many people over the years who have assumed that a rifle that was pictured in George’s books was an endorsement that the rifle was completely correct. That is not true for all of them. Many collectors allowed George to photograph rifles (and shotguns) from their collections. That does not mean he inspected each one the way he would when someone would send him a piece for his evaluation.
RIGHT! Here’s one I drooled over since 1985 when I first became aware of it and vowed to own it someday if the opportunity should arise, and I determined it looked much better in black & white in the book than in modern color photographs where problems were identified.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/winchester-1886-from-1895-in-45-90/
April 15, 2005
OfflineDEEREHART said
Louis Luttrell said
Hi Bill-
I am strictly a Model 70 collector. I do not own any of the few M70s pictured in Madis’ book. There was one, a M70 Super Grade, pictured in Madis that came up for sale a while ago but I didn’t chase after it. IIRC it had a couple “issues” that worried me.
I do, however, have several M70s pictured in the Rule and/or Whitaker Model 70 books in my collection (“several” may be an understatement depending on your perspective).
Does being pictured in a book “add value”? Or “proof” of legitimacy?? Not IMHO… What it does is to prove that the rifle existed prior to 1981 and 1978, respectively. So at least I know they weren’t faked yesterday…
Here’s one, pictured in Whitaker’s M70 book. The only one like it that I know of belongs to an esteemed WACA member. They are the same… But it’s not something that would interest a lever gun collector…
Best,
Lou
Lou,
I do collect lever guns, and I do find it very interesting.
But then again I do like model 70s also
Doug
You are just a simple Gun W***e 
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L

August 8, 2024
OfflineIt is funny the way that time goes bye. 38 years ago I bought Mike Nelson’s African that is pictured on page 238 in the Rule book. Since then I have acquired other firearms featured in other publications. This would include David Bichrest Model 54 book, and I even own a “Off brand” Model 99 that is pictured in Royal’s Model 99 book.
May 11, 2016
OfflineMy “Winchester International Match Single-Shot Rifle of 1913” is pictured eight times in John Campbell’s first volume book “The Winchester Single Shot”, and once in his second volume book of the same name.
May 23, 2009
OfflineRoger Adam said
My “Winchester International Match Single-Shot Rifle of 1913” is pictured eight times in John Campbell’s first volume book “The Winchester Single Shot”, and once in his second volume book of the same name.
I would have to dig out my Maids books to check. But I’m pretty sure if not the rifle, the drawings for that custom style rifle are shown in either the “Winchester Book” or the “Winchester Hand Book”. I don’t know which specific serial number is shown. But I’ll have to dig my copy out and find it.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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May 14, 2025
OfflineI’ve got the #8 1894 that is mentioned in Winchester Model 94 the first 100 years! It is listed and discussed on pages 15 and 31. It was the 2nd oldest known surviving 1894 but is now the 3rd as the serial #5 turned up a couple years ago at Rock Island. I was gonna send it off and have it restored but Brother Bert convinced me that was a stupid idea 😀
May 11, 2016
OfflineMaverick said
Roger Adam said
My “Winchester International Match Single-Shot Rifle of 1913” is pictured eight times in John Campbell’s first volume book “The Winchester Single Shot”, and once in his second volume book of the same name.
I would have to dig out my Maids books to check. But I’m pretty sure if not the rifle, the drawings for that custom style rifle are shown in either the “Winchester Book” or the “Winchester Hand Book”. I don’t know which specific serial number is shown. But I’ll have to dig my copy out and find it.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Thanks for the response Maverick. The International Match rifle that’s pictured in the Madis book is serial number 102363. It’s also pictured in the James Grant book “More Single-Shot Rifles” published in 1959. I was able to handle and inspect that rifle as part of the research that I did on my rifle. It’s currently in a private collection in Minnesota.
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