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new here so still figuring out how to post 

question is have seen a commmem 94 that doesnt appear to have correct serial and is made japan 

that cant be legit right ….gold and  silver eagle for sale now 

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Ser. no. range completely different for these guns, made by Miroku.  Winchester, now owned by Browning, may have records on them.

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 Winchester is not owned by Browning.Winchester is owned by Olin Corp.,who lease the Winchester name to be used on firearms being made for Browning in Japan.Olin still owns and runs the ammunition division .Not sure ,but I believe Olin did sell their power division to Hodgdon.Smile

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 Winchester is not owned by Browning.Winchester is owned by Olin Corp.,who lease the Winchester name to be used on firearms being made for Browning in Japan.Olin still owns and runs the ammunition division .Not sure ,but I believe Olin did sell their power division to Hodgdon.Smile

  

My mistake.  Actually, I knew that, but was thinking of which entity actually produced the guns. But Olin owns no production facilities for gunmaking that I know of.  Sad to think that the only thing left from that historic legacy is rights to the name & trademark.

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Welcome, Clint. I am a traditional collector and I collect the Winchesters that have been there, done that. An item that has been manufactured to be a “collectable” has little or no value to me. Miroku makes a very high quality product, I shoot clay birds with several Browning Citori’s and IMHO there is no finer gun for anywhere near the money. The Miroku “Winchesters” are very well built and finished firearms but they have no place in this collector’s world. Yes, there are folks who see value in commemoratives and newly manufactured “collectibles”. Please don’t be offended by indifferent attitudes from collectors like me. Some collectors are very much involved in commemoratives. Some aren’t. 

 

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 An item that has been manufactured to be a “collectable” has little or no value to me. TXGunNut said

  

Like the endless stream of “instant collectables” from Franklin Mint.  Yet, they ARE being sold, or they wouldn’t continue to be churned out.

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clarence said

 An item that has been manufactured to be a “collectable” has little or no value to me. TXGunNut said

  

Like the endless stream of “instant collectables” from Franklin Mint.  Yet, they ARE being sold, or they wouldn’t continue to be churned out.

  

Yes, I am aware of them as well. They don’t appeal to me either. Different strokes.

 

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clarence said

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 Winchester is not owned by Browning.Winchester is owned by Olin Corp.,who lease the Winchester name to be used on firearms being made for Browning in Japan.Olin still owns and runs the ammunition division .Not sure ,but I believe Olin did sell their power division to Hodgdon.Smile

  

My mistake.  Actually, I knew that, but was thinking of which entity actually produced the guns. But Olin owns no production facilities for gunmaking that I know of.  Sad to think that the only thing left from that historic legacy is rights to the name & trademark.

  

 Yes very sad that Winchester is only a lease name now, as far as firearms are concerned.Still its nice to be able to  buy a new firearm with the Winchester name on it.SmileI like my Winchester Super-X Model 3 very much.Smile Can at least say I am using a Winchester in the duck blind,even if not from the old original company.

 

 I suppose there is a chance that Olin could start making Winchester firearms again,but that I believe ,is a very faint chance at the best.Frown

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Yes very sad that Winchester is only a lease name now, as far as firearms are concerned.Still its nice to be able to  buy a new firearm with the Winchester name on it.SmileI like my Winchester Super-X Model 3 very much.Smile Can at least say I am using a Winchester in the duck blind,even if not from the old original company.

I wonder how many buyers of these new guns realize the “old original” Winchester company is extinct.  Guns marked “Made in Japan,” or “Made in Turkey,” should make that clear, but I gather from questions asked here & elsewhere that it’s not.

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 True ,very true

clarence said

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Yes very sad that Winchester is only a lease name now, as far as firearms are concerned.Still its nice to be able to  buy a new firearm with the Winchester name on it.SmileI like my Winchester Super-X Model 3 very much.Smile Can at least say I am using a Winchester in the duck blind,even if not from the old original company.

I wonder how many buyers of these new guns realize the “old original” Winchester company is extinct.  Guns marked “Made in Japan,” or “Made in Turkey,” should make that clear, but I gather from questions asked here & elsewhere that it’s not.

  

 True ,very true,clarence.Boxes the new firearms come in ,usually say Winchester Repeating Arms ,so that would make one think they were still being made by the old Winchester Repeating Arms Co.

 

 It still boggles my mind the prices they want for post 64 Model 94 Winchesters.I remember at the time we considered them little more than junk.Smile

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