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Bob Hood
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September 19, 2018 - 2:34 pm
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Putting together a display of cartridges for the Model 1885 but hit a bump! All the references I have seen note the 1885 was chambered in 32 short and 32 long centerfire (also 38 short & long) but not the specific cartridge, i.e. S&W or Colt or???  Can anyone clarify this? 

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Bob,

The 32 Short & Long center fire cartridges chambered in the Model 1885 were the Colt variety. Winchester only chambered the 38 Long center fire (none in 38 Short CF).

32 Short (CF) = 3
32 Long (CF) = 40
38 Long (CF) = 9

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Thanks much.  I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped.  Confusion comes from different sources.  Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s.  Perhaps this was referring to R.F.  It was from 100 Years of Win Cart Boxes that I found reference to 32 S & L and 38 S & L center fires.  This book indicates a 38 Long for the 1885 (perhaps only because a ctg box was printed as such).  Also, from that source I gathered they were Colt cartridges, but I want to be sure I am presenting the correct info. 

Might as well add a ‘plug’.  The only cartridge I am missing is the 40-90 Ballard – should anyone out there have such, that they would like to sell 🙂

Thanks again for your help,

Bob

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Bob Hood said
Thanks much.  I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped.  Confusion comes from different sources.  Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s.  Perhaps this was referring to R.F.  It was from 100 Years of Win Cart Boxes that I found reference to 32 S & L and 38 S & L center fires.  This book indicates a 38 Long for the 1885 (perhaps only because a ctg box was printed as such).  Also, from that source I gathered they were Colt cartridges, but I want to be sure I am presenting the correct info. 

Might as well add a ‘plug’.  The only cartridge I am missing is the 40-90 Ballard – should anyone out there have such, that they would like to sell 🙂

Thanks again for your help,

Bob  

Bob,

The bottom high-wall Special Sporting Rifle in my signature picture just happens to be a 40-90 Ballard, and I have two full boxes of WRACo 40-90 cartridges with it.  I had one of them for sale at the WACA show in Cody a few months ago.  I do not want to break up the box to sell a single cartridge, but will sell the entire box.  Let me know if you are interested.

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Appreciate the offer. but just need a single with WRA h.s. to finish this display.  My (new) focus is cartridges that were developed by Win or for which they chambered a rifle – all with WRA or Western variations of h.s.  As to boxes – 22 r.f. of same branding and especially 22 Win Auto (1903) boxes – currently have 50 variations of those.

Would this be a place to post wants? (and join, of course) 

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Bob Hood said
Appreciate the offer. but just need a single with WRA h.s. to finish this display.  My (new) focus is cartridges that were developed by Win or for which they chambered a rifle – all with WRA or Western variations of h.s.  As to boxes – 22 r.f. of same branding and especially 22 Win Auto (1903) boxes – currently have 50 variations of those.

Would this be a place to post wants? (and join, of course)   

Use the Swap Meet forum, and Yes, please sign up for a membership!

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Bob Hood said
Thanks much.  I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped.  Confusion comes from different sources.  Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s.  Perhaps this was referring to R.F.

Possibly–the .32 RF chambering was also available.  But this round wasn’t a Colt introduction–it was the same cartridge invented & patented by S&W in 1860, many years before Colt developed a metallic-cartridge revolver.

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