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Putting together a display of cartridges for the Model 1885 but hit a bump! All the references I have seen note the 1885 was chambered in 32 short and 32 long centerfire (also 38 short & long) but not the specific cartridge, i.e. S&W or Colt or??? Can anyone clarify this?
Thanks, Bob
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Bob,
The 32 Short & Long center fire cartridges chambered in the Model 1885 were the Colt variety. Winchester only chambered the 38 Long center fire (none in 38 Short CF).
32 Short (CF) = 3
32 Long (CF) = 40
38 Long (CF) = 9
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks much. I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped. Confusion comes from different sources. Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s. Perhaps this was referring to R.F. It was from 100 Years of Win Cart Boxes that I found reference to 32 S & L and 38 S & L center fires. This book indicates a 38 Long for the 1885 (perhaps only because a ctg box was printed as such). Also, from that source I gathered they were Colt cartridges, but I want to be sure I am presenting the correct info.
Might as well add a ‘plug’. The only cartridge I am missing is the 40-90 Ballard – should anyone out there have such, that they would like to sell 🙂
Thanks again for your help,
Bob
Bob Hood said
Thanks much. I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped. Confusion comes from different sources. Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s. Perhaps this was referring to R.F. It was from 100 Years of Win Cart Boxes that I found reference to 32 S & L and 38 S & L center fires. This book indicates a 38 Long for the 1885 (perhaps only because a ctg box was printed as such). Also, from that source I gathered they were Colt cartridges, but I want to be sure I am presenting the correct info.Might as well add a ‘plug’. The only cartridge I am missing is the 40-90 Ballard – should anyone out there have such, that they would like to sell 🙂
Thanks again for your help,
Bob
Bob,
The bottom high-wall Special Sporting Rifle in my signature picture just happens to be a 40-90 Ballard, and I have two full boxes of WRACo 40-90 cartridges with it. I had one of them for sale at the WACA show in Cody a few months ago. I do not want to break up the box to sell a single cartridge, but will sell the entire box. Let me know if you are interested.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Appreciate the offer. but just need a single with WRA h.s. to finish this display. My (new) focus is cartridges that were developed by Win or for which they chambered a rifle – all with WRA or Western variations of h.s. As to boxes – 22 r.f. of same branding and especially 22 Win Auto (1903) boxes – currently have 50 variations of those.
Would this be a place to post wants? (and join, of course)
Bob Hood said
Appreciate the offer. but just need a single with WRA h.s. to finish this display. My (new) focus is cartridges that were developed by Win or for which they chambered a rifle – all with WRA or Western variations of h.s. As to boxes – 22 r.f. of same branding and especially 22 Win Auto (1903) boxes – currently have 50 variations of those.Would this be a place to post wants? (and join, of course)
Use the Swap Meet forum, and Yes, please sign up for a membership!
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bob Hood said
Thanks much. I had seen your list during an earlier search and it helped. Confusion comes from different sources. Madis’, The Winchester Book (page 276), notes the 32 short – long and the 38’s. Perhaps this was referring to R.F.
Possibly–the .32 RF chambering was also available. But this round wasn’t a Colt introduction–it was the same cartridge invented & patented by S&W in 1860, many years before Colt developed a metallic-cartridge revolver.
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