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Buying a Winchester from WACA members in Canada
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A post in another thread, by one of our members that lives in Canada, got me to thinking about the red tape he mentioned as being a show stopper.  I’ve often thought about this subject, but never in detail.  What causes me to ask such a question is that it seems to me that one could get a very reasonable deal on a collectible piece, price wise, provided the red is at least tolerable to both parties.  Comments along this line would be greatly appreciated.

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From the Canadian perspective the only thing that might make it worth your while is the Canada vs. USA Dollar exchange rate.

To do this legally (from what I’ve been told) you need an Export Permit from the Canadian Gov’t and an Import Permit from the USA.

Don’t try it the old fashioned way because this means jail time in either direction – if you get caught.

There are “Brokers” who will do all this for you but it’s not cheap, about $300 per gun plus shipping costs etc.

So, why bother ? Canadian dealers and traders are as aware of prices both North and South of the Border as anyone else.

Thank the internet.

AND, There is no shortage of greed in “The Great White North”.

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Thanks for the reply, David!

I could deal with such a broker’s fee, even on top of the 10% tax where I live, provided the gun was in relatively high condition with lots of eye appeal, affordable to my budget, and had some special features that letter.  That’s a pretty tall order I think, but you’re right about dealers to the north are also aware of the prices.

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Make sure you find out all of the different laws and requirements before you proceed.  Many guns or gun related parts never make it through customs.  Sometimes to never be seen again.  Maybe you can find someone that has gone through this recently.

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Chuck said
Make sure you find out all of the different laws and requirements before you proceed.  Many guns or gun related parts never make it through customs.  Sometimes to never be seen again.  Maybe you can find someone that has gone through this recently.  

That’s good advice, Chuck.  Thanks!

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The red tape is on the American side. I’ve shipped a few guns to the US from Canada in the past. All I need to do is get an Canadian export permit, which has been free, but the American side of things needs an import permit, which is time-consuming and costs money and the person doing it needs an FFL. That being said, an enormous number (in the four figures) of Winchesters have already gone south to the extent that the pickings up here have gotten much slimmer than south of the border. 

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A couple years ago I purchased a Model 1892 rifle which was in France and had it imported via Simpsons Limited in Galesburg, IL.   It was not a difficult process at all and the rifle got my FFL here in Houston with no problems.

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Kirk, my thanks to you and twobit!  Much appreciated!

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Michael,

Did Simpsons Limited stamp import marks anywhere on your model 1892?

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We had a great emigration of firearms up here in Canada back when the Cretien, Liberal, gov’t imposed the long arm gun registry, and I don’t think We’ve ever recovered from that. even though it has long gone defunct at great cost to the Country with no positive result. I try my best to bring some of those quality firearms back to Canada but it’s very difficult right now with the difference in the money and the overzealous enforcement of firearms laws in the U.S. since 911 and homeland Security. I just don’t see how an antique Winchester affects either issue, but there are those that do. Saying that I just lost a nice Henry sight in the mail that I’d sold to a member, He never got it, kinda just disappeared, first time that has happened to Me.I should have sent it registered mail. I’ve used the border brokers , when necessary and I’ve had good results with them, so I don’t see any detrimental effects of buying a firearm up here in Canada and getting it to the U.S. and the plus side for You Americans right now is the $. I can sell You a very high end deluxe “94 in the $10,000.00U.S. range, something You would pay $15,000.00 if the dollar was par. I think about $500.00 or less will get it to You.

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Michael,

Did Simpsons Limited stamp import marks anywhere on your model 1892?

Al  

They not mark the rifle Al.

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that’s good to know Michael.

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Henry Mero said
We had a great emigration of firearms up here in Canada back when the Cretien, Liberal, gov’t imposed the long arm gun registry, and I don’t think We’ve ever recovered from that. even though it has long gone defunct at great cost to the Country with no positive result. I try my best to bring some of those quality firearms back to Canada but it’s very difficult right now with the difference in the money and the overzealous enforcement of firearms laws in the U.S. since 911 and homeland Security. I just don’t see how an antique Winchester affects either issue, but there are those that do. Saying that I just lost a nice Henry sight in the mail that I’d sold to a member, He never got it, kinda just disappeared, first time that has happened to Me.I should have sent it registered mail. I’ve used the border brokers , when necessary and I’ve had good results with them, so I don’t see any detrimental effects of buying a firearm up here in Canada and getting it to the U.S. and the plus side for You Americans right now is the $. I can sell You a very high end deluxe “94 in the $10,000.00U.S. range, something You would pay $15,000.00 if the dollar was par. I think about $500.00 or less will get it to You.  

Hello Henry, check your private messages.

James

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