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Bloomberg goes bananas.
Good Bless the New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n! Their lawsuit cost this small org a large fortune.
There were many reasons I retired from NY to Sun Valley ID in 2003–among them, Taxes and Idiotic Gun Laws. Now in Taos NM where you don’t need a permit
to carry, although I took the concealed carry course in Idaho. This is just the start of good news–Bill
Here in Ca. we have the Ca. Pistol and Rifle Assoc. They are way more effective than the NRA at fighting our fights. Concealed carry was not strictly prohibited but it was up to the Local Sheriff. Rich and famous never had an issue.
Chuck said
Here in Ca. we have the Ca. Pistol and Rifle Assoc. They are way more effective than the NRA at fighting our fights. Concealed carry was not strictly prohibited but it was up to the Local Sheriff. Rich and famous never had an issue.
Exactly–even in & around NYC, which is where restrictions are most onerous & where this case originated, the “rich and famous” could hire lawyers to grease the skids for them. When I got my unrestricted permit 50 yrs ago, there was nothing to it–had it in 3 or 4 wks. But decade by decade more & more red tape was added to the app process, which now takes a yr or more, requires half a doz “sponsors,” & a mandatory $300 safety course, the obvious object of it all being to wear applicants down so they give up in frustration.
I doubt that NYRPA received a dime from NRA, now on the ropes thanks to La Pierre’s extravagances & mismanagement.
When I got my permit I was still doing a little handgun hunting, but I gave that up 30 yrs ago as my eyesight went from bad to worse, & haven’t “carried” since. Not something I worry about in an area where most people (except urban refugees) don’t lock their doors.
Sadly gun owners in Canada now may soon not be able to buy, sell, import or trade any handgun. In addition new firearms legislation , if passed, will require that all long firearms must be permanently altered to hold a maximum of 5 rounds. This includes all firearms including .22 rimfires. I may have to sell all of my Winchesters into the US that hold more than 5 rounds including the 1894’s, Model 97’s and Model 90’s.
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Very sad news indeed. Does this five round limit include a round in the chamber? And, does it apply to antique status repeating rifles?
Dave K. said
Sadly gun owners in Canada now may soon not be able to buy, sell, import or trade any handgun. In addition new firearms legislation , if passed, will require that all long firearms must be permanently altered to hold a maximum of 5 rounds. This includes all firearms including .22 rimfires. I may have to sell all of my Winchesters into the US that hold more than 5 rounds including the 1894’s, Model 97’s and Model 90’s.
steve004 said
Very sad news indeed. Does this five round limit include a round in the chamber? And, does it apply to antique status repeating rifles?Dave K. said
Sadly gun owners in Canada now may soon not be able to buy, sell, import or trade any handgun. In addition new firearms legislation , if passed, will require that all long firearms must be permanently altered to hold a maximum of 5 rounds. This includes all firearms including .22 rimfires. I may have to sell all of my Winchesters into the US that hold more than 5 rounds including the 1894’s, Model 97’s and Model 90’s.
Steve, I am just going by the announcement of the Prime Minister Trudeau who made a statement following the Uvalde, Texas tragedy so details are sketchy but it seems to include a round in the chamber. This would affect owners of the hundreds of thousands of 94 carbines and virtually every repeating shotgun and .22RF in the country. None of my Winchesters are legally antique. My hope is that some reasonable accomodation will be made for historic firearms but I am not hopeful. Maybe time to collect pocket watches or move to Idaho?
Dave K. said Maybe time to collect pocket watches or move to Idaho
The latter, if you possibly can. Will the Western provinces stand for this? Secession is not impossible within the framework of Canadian law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarity_Act Only question: do those Canadians have the will & the guts to try?
clarence said
Dave K. said Maybe time to collect pocket watches or move to Idaho
The latter, if you possibly can. Will the Western provinces stand for this? Secession is not impossible within the framework of Canadian law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarity_Act Only question: do those Canadians have the will & the guts to try?
clarence, I once did consider retiring to Idaho so that would be my choice. I don’t think the gun issue alone would cause a province to opt out of confederation but there is a lot of discontent in Alberta and Saskatchewan on other issues that might trigger a referendum to leave. I think many citizens would welcome independence from Ottawa. Trudeau seems to want to emulate what New Zealand and Australia have done to remove guns from citizens. Most of the outrage seems to be about the ridiculous and expensive “buy back” of 1500 gun models that look like so called “assault rifles” and the proposed regulations to prohibit buying and selling of handguns. These are just the thin edge of the wedge moves to further limit ownship of firearms. We don’t have a 2nd Amendment to protect our rights.
Dave Yoiu can’t seriously tell Me You are prepared to comply with this stupid order, surely someone in Ottawa will come to Their senses. I am already a criminal ,(in Trudeau’s eyes) so nothing really will change for Me. The prospect of going to prison is not as daunting , at74 as it was at 34 so if They think They’ll get My firearms without a fight They’de better think again. Cudos to the New York club for stepping out and standing Their ground. The old saying “Freedom is not free” sure shines here doesn’t it.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry Mero said
Dave Yoiu can’t seriously tell Me You are prepared to comply with this stupid order, surely someone in Ottawa will come to Their senses. I am already a criminal ,(in Trudeau’s eyes) so nothing really will change for Me. The prospect of going to prison is not as daunting , at74 as it was at 34 so if They think They’ll get My firearms without a fight They’de better think again. Cudos to the New York club for stepping out and standing Their ground. The old saying “Freedom is not free” sure shines here doesn’t it.
Henry, I will absolutely NOT alter any of my Winchesters or any collector firearm in order to comply with a ridiculous law requiring firearms to be permanently altered for any reason which will destroy their historical or collector value. It is bad enough that my S&W Model 1 made in the 1870’s is a prohibited firearm requiring a special class of licence simply because it is chambered in .22 Short (Black Powder) and I will not be able pass it down to my son, sell it or trade it.
Dave K. said It is bad enough that my S&W Model 1 made in the 1870’s is a prohibited firearm requiring a special class of licence simply because it is chambered in .22 Short (Black Powder) and I will not be able pass it down to my son, sell it or trade it.
Has that one actually been recorded on a license? If not, mum is the word. If so, I’d make myself the victim of a break-in. But the best option remains Idaho. You’ve got nothing against potatoes, do you?
clarence said
Dave K. said It is bad enough that my S&W Model 1 made in the 1870’s is a prohibited firearm requiring a special class of licence simply because it is chambered in .22 Short (Black Powder) and I will not be able pass it down to my son, sell it or trade it.
Has that one actually been recorded on a license? If not, mum is the word. If so, I’d make myself the victim of a break-in. But the best option remains Idaho. You’ve got nothing against potatoes, do you?
clarence, All handguns in Canada must be registered and owned by a person with a restricted firearms permit after taking a course on handgun safety and passing a written test. Registration of handguns has been the law since the 1930’s. I have owned the little S&W for 64 years and it is registered.
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