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October 28, 2021 - 3:20 pm
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Would any of the Canadian members care to advise on what Winchester levers have antique status. I’m aware it’s Pre 1898 for Canada opposed to pre 1899 for the U.S but I’ve never meant two people with the same answer or view on this.
It appears caliber plays into this(any center fire cartridge greater than .323). Does this mean 32WS & 30WCF don’t qualify regardless if pre 1898 or not.
Initially yrs ago I believed as long as it was pre 1898 in Canada, it qualified as long as the cartridge was classified as obsolete, but with Winchester Miruko re-producing current guns in some of these obsolete calibers are they still antique status ??‍♂️. A list of which Winchester models & caliber would be a great benefit to many new collectors or gun enthusiast.

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Rick You need to to go on Firearms Canada , antique status. It’s a fairly lengthy description, so I’m not going to repeat it here, but they do list the calibers , configuration etc. . There is no such thing in Canada as a antique .22 cal. anything or .32 cal. centre fire anything. Also 1 handed crossbows are prohibs. No body said it has to make sense, it’s just how it is. I had a Colt 2nd gen. 1849 pocket Mod. with a 4″ bbl. , it was prohibited, I have an original , same configuration, it’,s antique. I have 2 s.a.a.’s , 1 mfg. 1896, 1 mfg. 1912 , 1 is antique 1 is restricted. I would sure like to be able to re-write the gun laws here but that probably is not possible as they would likely make sense and that just wouldn’t cut it in todays gov’t

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October 28, 2021 - 10:19 pm
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 From what I understand, any firearm made before 1898,for which fixed ammunition is not readily available,is considered antique in Canada.

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October 28, 2021 - 10:52 pm
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I called the RCMP Firearms Center today. All Winchester levers are non restricted with the exception of model 1866 in 44 rimfire and model 1885(non repeater) larger then caliber 32-40 which have antique status pre 1898. There it is.

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I called the RCMP Firearms Center today. All Winchester levers are non restricted except pre 1898 model 1866 in 44 rimfire and model 1885(non repeater) larger then caliber 32-40. There it is.  

Rick – did you mean to state all Winchester levers are restricted, except the M1866 and a single-shot in larger calibers?

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Steve, no all Winchester levers are “Non” restricted (which still requires a possession acquisition Licence in Canada) but pre 1898 model 1866 in 44 rimfire and model 1885(non repeater) larger then caliber 32-40 are the only ones with antique status.

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Steve, no all Winchester levers are “Non” restricted (which still requires a possession acquisition Licence in Canada) but pre 1898 model 1866 in 44 rimfire and model 1885(non repeater) larger then caliber 32-40 are the only ones with antique status.  

Thanks for the clarification Rick.  If I were up there, I’d be collecting Winchester single-shots in the .50 Eley and .577 Eley.  Oh wait, they didn’t make very many of them 😉

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 Not sure who you were talking to at the Firearms Centre,but I would get a second opinion on that advice.Depending on who you are talking to at the Centre,they are not always quite right in what they say,it often comes down to interpretation and how knowledgeable the person you are talking to is.There are many civilian employees at the Centre,who do mundane work and do not have the knowledge of a Firearms Officer.

 

 They could be right,but I would check,as that is not what I was told in the past.Smile

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October 30, 2021 - 12:07 am
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Back to my original comment. I’ve never meant two people with the same answer or view on this.

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Its not too late! We can still use a 51st state! Laugh But we only want the Blue Provenances and territories. We’ll keep the map the same color as well. Our liberals will think they’re going to win by a landslide. They won’t even see it coming.

We’ll even incorporate some of y’alls coinage. I wouldn’t mind having Caribou, Beavers, Maple leaves, bears, and ducks on our coinage. 

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Does this mean 32WS & 30WCF don’t qualify regardless if pre 1898 or not.

.32 Winchester Special can never be pre 1898 (or pre 1899, for that matter, as it was not created until October of 1901.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_Winchester_Special

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RickC said
Does this mean 32WS & 30WCF don’t qualify regardless if pre 1898 or not.

.32 Winchester Special can never be pre 1898 (or pre 1899, for that matter, as it was not created until October of 1901.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_Winchester_Special  

True enough. Never even thought of that when posting.

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 Okay been looking around.It appears what you were told was right.I will post a link to the site.My information was a bit outdated ,as I see the regulations were changed dated 2021\10\28.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-464/FullText.htmlhttps://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-464/FullText.html

Hope the link works.Smile

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