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94 trapper in 45 colt
September 23, 2021 - 2:26 pm

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How many 94’s in 45 colt were produced in the USA?

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Kingston, WA
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September 23, 2021 - 3:59 pm

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David,

There is no source of information for that question. As a point of interest, all of the Model 94s manufactured in that caliber were produced by the U.S. Repeating Arms Company (not Winchester).

Bert

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September 23, 2021 - 9:24 pm

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So the 45 colts aren’t really considered Winchesters? I bought it because I thought it was an interesting caliber in a 94 and thought there probably weren’t that many made. I wonder if there will be any collector interest down the road? That is a bummer that it is stamped Winchester but isn’t considered one, like a red headed step child.

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September 23, 2021 - 10:03 pm

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David Woodward said
So the 45 colts aren’t really considered Winchesters? I bought it because I thought it was an interesting caliber in a 94 and thought there probably weren’t that many made. I wonder if there will be any collector interest down the road? That is a bummer that it is stamped Winchester but isn’t considered one, like a red headed step child.  

No, they are not considered a true “Winchester”.  Winchester pulled the plug on their firearms manufacturing division in December 1980, and then in March of 1981, they leased their trademarked name to the U.S. Repeating Arms Company.  That lease expired in March of 2006.  Currently the “Winchester” trademarked name is leased to the Browning Arms Company, a wholly owned subsidiary of Fabrique Nationale (FN).  FN is manufacturing firearms in Portugal and Japan with the “Winchester” name on them.

In regards to your question about collector interest in the USRACo manufactured firearms… only time will tell.

Bert – WACA Historian

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September 24, 2021 - 1:36 am

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David Woodward said
So the 45 colts aren’t really considered Winchesters? I bought it because I thought it was an interesting caliber in a 94 and thought there probably weren’t that many made. I wonder if there will be any collector interest down the road? That is a bummer that it is stamped Winchester but isn’t considered one, like a red headed step child.  

I got decent money for a very good condition late model 45 Colt AE Trapper a few years back in spite of the cross bolt safety. It was a cute little carbine but it had been on the back row of my safe too long. I think values are going up on these guns but as Bert correctly points out it’s probably too early to tell about interest among serious collectors. I like the 45 Colt cartridge but as you may know “Winchester” never chambered the 94 in 45 Colt until about 1985. I’ve heard and read they don’t feed the cartridge well as the action wasn’t designed for a pistol cartridge. I never had a feeding problem with mine, very little recoil even with some fairly stiff loads. 

Most collectors are only interested in “pre-64” Winchesters, more than a few collect only pre-war examples and a small percentage focus on antiques (pre-1899). 

 

Mike

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October 2, 2021 - 8:00 pm

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I have very much enjoyed mine.  Non-crossbolt, handy as anything, quick on target and fun to shoot.  And it’s an absolute death ray out to 100 yards if I do my part.

 

Collector value seems limited for the reasons stated above, but folks seem to like them and that’s half the battle. 🙂

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