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March 31, 2009
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I ran across one of these with no head stamp. Supposed to be a Winchester experimental? 3-1/4″.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
I ran across one of these with no head stamp. Supposed to be a Winchester experimental? 3-1/4″.
Do you have a picture of it? Do you know what the bullet weight is?
My first thought is that it could be a derivative of the Winchester 40 Express (40-110), which was a 3.25″ cartridge.
Bert
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May 23, 2009
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It could also be the 40-120 Winchester? What type of bullet does it have?
Here is a reference I found online.
https://naboje.org/en/node/18705
Pictures and dimensions would do a lot of good to help make a determination.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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March 31, 2009
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I haven’t contacted the seller but here is a picture. Looks more like the 40-120 that Maverick posted.
May 23, 2009
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Looks like a dead ringer to me.
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April 15, 2005
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Interesting! I wonder what rifle it was made for. The Single Shot rifles in 40 EX (40-110) were rifled for a non-patched and much lighter weight bullet that what appears to be loaded in the cartridge Chuck found. I have not found any record entry for a “40-120” in the Single Shot ledgers.
Bert
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November 19, 2006
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If there’s no head stamp, what is the basis to think it is a .40-100?
March 31, 2009
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Maybe it is a 40-90 Sharps BN? They look just like this and are 3 1/4″. I have some but they have WRACO head stamps.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Maybe it is a 40-90 Sharps BN? They look just like this and are 3 1/4″. I have some but they have WRACO head stamps.
The 40-90 Sharps BN cartridge is not 3.25″ long (but the 40-90 Sharps Straight is).
This is the correct factory designation and length for the 40-90 B.N. cartridge.
S/N 2435
Bert
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March 31, 2009
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Bert, you are correct. That is what I get for going by memory.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Bert, you are correct. That is what I get for going by memory.
Nice box 
… is it yours ?
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March 31, 2009
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Yes, it is full and even has the tan paper wrapped around each cartridge.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Yes, it is full and even has the tan paper wrapped around each cartridge.
Tell your lovely wife & daughter that I get it when you croak !
Better yet, put a note on it with my name, phone number, and address!
Bert
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I could be tempted to sell it but it was not cheap.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
I could be tempted to sell it but it was not cheap.
Bring it to the next Cody show with a price tag on it… then again, you do have about 10-years on me, and I am patient
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March 31, 2009
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True, but I have no reason to sell anything. I have never flown with ammo but I think all I need is an airline approved case? That in itself would cause me to jack up the price at least the cost of the extra bag. Then there’s hazmat fees, handling, taxes and so on. $$$$$
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Chuck said
True, but I have no reason to sell anything. I have never flown with ammo but I think all I need is an airline approved case? That in itself would cause me to jack up the price at least the cost of the extra bag. Then there’s hazmat fees, handling, taxes and so on. $$$$$
A case is not required if it is just an old box of ammo. It can be put in any piece of checked luggage as long as you declare it. Patience Grasshopper!
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March 31, 2009
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I’ve been patiently sitting on this box for a couple of years waiting for you to find me a highwall in this caliber.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
I’ve been patiently sitting on this box for a couple of years waiting for you to find me a highwall in this caliber.
Really… there were (743) high-walls made in the 40-90 Sharps Straight cartridge, and you want me to find you one of them?? I have had my hands on at least (6) of them in the past 15-years. Most of them were made with a 32-inch No. 4 octagon barrel.
Bert
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I looked a little more into the supposed 40-100 but the closest I could find was the 40-110 EX like Bert said. The difference being the the 40 EX has an express copper tube bullet and it is not paper patched?
