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I’ve been married for almost 54 years and still haven’t gotten out of the penalty box.  Don’t really care if I ever do. 

Building on what Oldcrankyyankee said, I’ll venture useful.advice to young, unmarried Members, based on personal experience and many client marital postmortems:

It is not necessary that a prospective spouse hunt or show interest in firearms, Winchesters or otherwise. It is VERY important that she have a favorable view of men who hunt and/or have an interest in firearms. Best is if her father, brother, and uncles – the men in her family – were so interested because she will regard this as normal and manly behavior.  

The shooting sports and, in particular, hunting, are not subjects on which many young women are neutral. I’m not suggesting they be topics for a pre-nuptual agreement but I do strongly recommend they be openly discussed before a young Member ceases thinking with his larger head.

In the Spring 2023 Magazine, and article by Brad Dubar “Late Season 33”, he has a pic of 3 Load Data Cards, Winchester Cards as far as I know! But visible dates, powders, and all for 200gr bullet. He stated that from the start Win used Hercules #2, then #1, transition to Hercules H.V.  in 1923, and then to IMR4064 in 1935 which was used solely thru the life of the rifle & cartridge,  1953 i believe.  Grs of Powder are shown.

steve004 said
Chris – 
Thanks for the above.  I’ll print it out and add it to my .33 loads reference file.
Here’s a question for everyone:
I have a very healthy supply of 230 grain bullets for the .33 WCF.  I have yet to see load data above 200 grains.  Anyone?
  

I suppose I should ask Bear Creek why they chose 230 grain for their one .33 WCF bullet offering – particularly as there doesn’t seem to be any published loading data anywhere for bullets heavier than 200 grain.

STEVE, WOW! That is a monster. Do you know the story about penetrating the brush?.

Anthony said
A model 1886 in the .33 caliber and using a 200 grain bullet. I remember my Father in law suggesting a, “Brush Busting Cartridge”, back in the day, at our hunt camp in Pa. I wound up using a .375 Winchester, with 200 grain bullets, and that round took down many a whitetails. We would find and see small saplings down or at least cut in half in front of the deer and myself, in the line of fire. It amazed me not only how the term was used back then but how accurate the terminology was that these experienced marksman/hunters were. I never needed to use the 250 grain bullet, as that was plenty for what I was doing, in the thick under brush, we hunted. I wish that I could add more about the .33 caliber cartridge, but I don’t have that experience as others do, with that cartridge.
Steve,
That image is also in the Smithsonian.
Thanks for sharing!
Anthony
  

Anthony –

Your father-in-law was clearly a wise and experienced deer hunter!

Bill –

The brush comment in intrigued me as well.  I don’t know the specific background for that comment, but Anthony’s experience is illustrative.  

By the way, I did not know the image was in the Smithsonian.  Too bad I didn’t know as I was there last year.  I wish I had known as it surely would have captured my attention.

I sent the photo to my Dad’s youngest brother this morning.  At first glance, he thought it was a picture of him.  That’s partly because there is a picture of him, circa about 1955, next to a big whitetail deer, holding a half-magazine Winchester M1886 .33 WCF (my Dad had let him use his .33).