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I have a 1892 Winchester SN 87442 that letters with sling studs but front one is missing. I got what I think is a military style sling at a sale for $2. It was made by Hunter. Would this be appropriate for my beat-up old rifle when and if I get correct front stud? Don

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If you are looking for a sling that you can attach to the rifle to carry over your shoulder while hunting, I would think a Hunter sling would work fine.  However, if you are looking for a sling that would be period correct, it wouldn’t have the name, “Hunter” on it.

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I have a 1892 Winchester SN 87442 that letters with sling studs but front one is missing. I got what I think is a military style sling at a sale for $2. It was made by Hunter. Would this be appropriate for my beat-up old rifle when and if I get correct front stud? Don

  

A ’92 with factory swivels is pretty rare, even in beat-up cond.  The “fish-hook” swivels can be found (deerhunter had some recently, or someone else), & the buttstock stud, but the stud that attaches to the forearm tip is very hard to find; you may have to fabricate one from a buttstock stud.  The factory sling was a simple carrying strap, & any leather shop can make one, if you can’t make it yourself.  Any military sling would look very strange on a lever gun to me.

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You did’t say if you have a rifle or a carbine.  Both rifle and carbine use the same sling eyes. Rifle eye attached to the fore arm cap, carbine eye attached to the fore arm barrel band.  RDB

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Hello Roger

  This is an 1892 44-40 carbine which has been refinished and restored by a semi-professional gun smith. I don’t hunt with it. Mostly it hangs on wall and thought because it letters with sling studs I would add a front stud and an appropriate sling. Don

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This is an 1892 44-40 carbine which has been refinished and restored by a semi-professional gun smith. I don’t hunt with it. Mostly it hangs on wall and thought because it letters with sling studs I would add a front stud and an appropriate sling. 86Win said

Too bad about the refinish, but a carbine with factory swivels is much rarer than a rifle with the same.  I said you could make the kind of stud that attaches to the forearm cap, but that won’t work for the one that attaches to the mag tube; never even seen one of those offered for sale.

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I believe these are the correct swivel eyes used on Winchesters.  The front swivel was inserted in the forend cap or band hole then “crushed” from inside to keep it in place.  If this information is not correct someone will correct it and I’ll know the proper procedure too.  Wink  RDB

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Roger. the stud this would use has a serrated nut that is placed up in wood of forearm and then the swivel stud is screwed in through the forearm band. I have had it apart and that is the way I see it. Uncle Mike has a similar stud but not exactly like the original. Don

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rogertherelic said
I believe these are the correct swivel eyes used on Winchers.  The front swivel was inserted in the forend cap or band hole then “crushed” from inside to keep it in place.  If this information is not correct someone will correct it and I’ll know the proper procedure too.  

A thin washer was originally supplied to fit over the stud inside the cap, but can be used without it; just requires a bit larger “mushroom” on end of stud.  I have one too I’m sure I’ll never use, but hate to part with it, knowing how scarce they are.

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 86WIN,  That doesn’t sound correct to what I am familiar with.  My 1892 carbine and 1894’s with sling eyes are all like the ones I pictured.  I am not aware of what you described.  I’m always open to learning something new though.  Possibly similar to what was used on the Model 54s?    RDB

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894:

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894:

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Very interesting rifle, Gary. What’s the chambering?

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894: 

Surprising to see both rear sight & rcvr. sight.  Factory?  Sling on carbine even more rare.

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clarence said

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894: 

Surprising to see both rear sight & rcvr. sight.  Factory?  Sling on carbine even more rare.

  

Yes, and letters w/ both. 

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clarence said

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894: 

Surprising to see both rear sight & rcvr. sight.  Factory?  Sling on carbine even more rare.

  

Gary’s Model 1894 is not a Carbine… it is a Take Down “Short” Rifle.  There are a lot of Winchesters that letter with both a tang or receiver sights, and a barrel mounted sight. It does not make much sense to me as to the “why”.

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Bert H. said

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Gary’s Model 1894 is not a Carbine… it is a Take Down “Short” Rifle.  There are a lot of Winchesters that letter with both a tang or receiver sights, and a barrel mounted sight. It does not make much sense to me as to the “why”.

  

Referring to Roger’s carbine.  Guns ordered with both sights proves original buyer’s ignorance of proper use of rcvr. sights like Lyman 21. 

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That is a very special and beautiful rifle Cool  Don’t see slings very often either.

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steve004 said

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Example of a factory sling & swivels on an 1894:

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That is a very special and beautiful rifle Cool  Don’t see slings very often either.

  

Here’s an earlier thread where this rifle was discussed. The letter is shown with a few more pictures.

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steve004 said

 Don’t see slings very often either.

And he’s got TWO of them!  (Or more.)  Ain’t fair!

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“Belgium” proofed 1892 carbine.  Serial no. 681410.  It has a perfect bore and is a good shooter!  RDB

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