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I really don’t have something in particular to talk about but just mostly a question, maybe, for future reference. As long as it is “Winchester” related – does it have to be “vintage” or “collectible” to post on this site?
Dan
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Welcome to WACA and I’d say post away! Many of us like the new stuff too, although a good chunk of folks around here are married to the “pre-64” models.
Understand – I prefer Pre-64 myself. I only have two of those. My hunting rifle is a 2013 and then I have a couple of newer shotguns. Mostly just curious where the line in the sand was.
Dan
Deg, Welcome! Don’t think there is a line in the sand as to what it is related to Winchester nor how old it is. Just understand that the knowledge is mostly in regard to the older items. Fewer of us know the post 64 items but they are out there and in here as well. Tim
It seems that more and more, I am glancing at post-63 Winchesters that come along. In fact, here’s a M70 Super Grade I spotted this morning. I thought it was a pretty nice looking rifle. And given it is 1 of 500, I suppose it has collector appeal:
November 7, 2015
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Dan-
Most of our members prefer to focus on the “pre-64” Winchesters on this forum but a sizeable percentage choose to focus on antiques or pre-war models. Some focus on John Moses Browning designed guns and others focus on rimfires. Some focus on the Model 54 and 70, others on leverguns. I lose focus on a regular basis, it’s more fun that way. Our administrator is a certified Single Shot fanatic but don’t get him started on the 5.9 Cummins or his old wore-out Dodge pickup. Bert is also our survey guru so if you have a statistical question he has the answer or knows where to find it.
Mike
Not a MoPar guy but a worn out 5.9??!! sounds like blasphemy Thats as bad as telling me the 7.3 turbo was junk. 
Ha! good to know, I also have a worn-out Dodge. But, as I continue to get older, I also realize that what was once not vintage, is rapidly becoming vintage.
Dan
Deg said
Ha! good to know, I also have a worn-out Dodge. But, as I continue to get older, I also realize that what was once not vintage, is rapidly becoming vintage.
We all wear out and become vintage at some point.
November 7, 2015
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oldcrankyyankee said
Not a MoPar guy but a worn out 5.9??!! sounds like blasphemy Thats as bad as telling me the 7.3 turbo was junk.
No, the 5.9 Cummins isn’t worn out. It’s just getting broke in. It and the 7.3 actually take about 300,000 miles to get broken in. The 6.0, 6.4 and the Duramax made me a pretty good living for a lot of years without making me wait so long. Good thing my car isn’t as old as the Winchesters I like, I never did get the hang of hand crank starting.
Mike
TXGunNut said
oldcrankyyankee said
Not a MoPar guy but a worn out 5.9??!! sounds like blasphemy Thats as bad as telling me the 7.3 turbo was junk.
No, the 5.9 Cummins isn’t worn out. It’s just getting broke in. It and the 7.3 actually take about 300,000 miles to get broken in. The 6.0, 6.4 and the Duramax made me a pretty good living for a lot of years without making me wait so long. Good thing my car isn’t as old as the Winchesters I like, I never did get the hang of hand crank starting.
Mike
Ya hand crank was never good to me either. Had a 48 Farmall cub with a exhaust assist front plow for cleaning the milking barn, standard NE fair barn, double row stanchion affair good for about 50 head. We used it to push the manure every day. I couldn’t start that thing to save my life. Got busted thumbs to prove it. Pa Swain would come and gently roll it over til she hit ot TDC and give her a quick flip and presto!!! run like a champ. Think he left the battery dead so it wouldn’t spark and lite the hay up and to make us boys a little tougher.!
I had to do some cranking on an Allis Model C split front axle. But I’d try to park it where I could just push in on the clutch and she’d roll down a small hill and then pop the clutch – fired right off.
Dan
The problem I have with a vehicle with a Cummins diesel engine is it will last over 300,000 miles but I never have the opportunity to drive it that far because if the road salt doesn’t eat a vehicle by 150,000 miles, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania annual inspections are too rigid, requiring repairs in an older vehicle to make it through inspection that exceed the value of the vehicle.
Annual inspections are NOT about safety. They are about ensuring an annual revenue stream for the Harrisburg gestapo and to ensure that you don’t dare keep a vehicle too long and bypass planned obsolescence.
And, of course, scrapping a vehicle ensures you spend your hard earned dollars buying a replacement.
What good is a consumer who fails to consume?
Ya, that salt deal stinks. I have an F150, 2007 King Ranch sitting in the driveway with near 360,000 miles on it (gasser not disel burner). Still running good. I just bought me a new Ram so I am giving the F150 to my grandson.
Dan
TXGunNut said
Dan-Most of our members prefer to focus on the “pre-64” Winchesters on this forum but a sizeable percentage choose to focus on antiques or pre-war models. Some focus on John Moses Browning designed guns and others focus on rimfires. Some focus on the Model 54 and 70, others on leverguns. I lose focus on a regular basis, it’s more fun that way. Our administrator is a certified Single Shot fanatic but don’t get him started on the 5.9 Cummins or his old wore-out Dodge pickup. Bert is also our survey guru so if you have a statistical question he has the answer or knows where to find it.
Mike
With just 393,000 miles on it, my “old Dodge” Cummins is a long way from being “wore-out”. I drove it home from the dealership exactly 20-years ago tomorrow afternoon. 
Bert (the Single Shot & Dodge fanatic)
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Back in the day I had experience cranking a couple old Case tractors. It was a good workout – for one arm anyway. It was a good way to grow your right arm to twice the size of the left arm.
Bert H. said
TXGunNut said
Dan-
Most of our members prefer to focus on the “pre-64” Winchesters on this forum but a sizeable percentage choose to focus on antiques or pre-war models. Some focus on John Moses Browning designed guns and others focus on rimfires. Some focus on the Model 54 and 70, others on leverguns. I lose focus on a regular basis, it’s more fun that way. Our administrator is a certified Single Shot fanatic but don’t get him started on the 5.9 Cummins or his old wore-out Dodge pickup. Bert is also our survey guru so if you have a statistical question he has the answer or knows where to find it.
Mike
With just 393,000 miles on it, my “old Dodge” Cummins is a long way from being “wore-out”. I drove it home from the dealership exactly 20-years ago tomorrow afternoon.
Bert (the Single Shot & Dodge fanatic)
That’s great. I keep mine for the long haul too. Just got a 2025 Ram, has 5000 miles on it now. I am 62 and figure this is probably the last one I will need.
Dan
steve004 said
Back in the day I had experience cranking a couple old case tractors. It was a good workout – for one arm anyway. It was a good way to grow your right arm to twice the size of the left arm.
See, we called it “kick start” – we’d roll the crank to about the 8-o’clock position and use our leg power.
Dan
Bert H. said
With just 393,000 miles on it, my “old Dodge” Cummins is a long way from being “wore-out”. I drove it home from the dealership exactly 20-years ago tomorrow afternoon.
Well, I guess my “old” 2007 truck isn’t so old after all, mine just turned 18 and only has 200,000 on the 6.7 Cummins and is just starting to get broken in and the fuel economy keeps increasing with age!
Out here in the desert we don’t have to worry about rust but the sun bakes the paint right off the metal. On it’s 18th birthday I treated it to a new paint job and tires and it will be good to go another 18 years (or longer).
LOVE that truck!
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
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