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…to the contrary), RI is breaking no law.  You think an operation the size of RI is without competent legal counsel?  (I see Bert deleted by previous response as he always does when he can't refute my logic.) 

This discrepancy in the dating between Madis' numbers & those of Cody

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April 27, 2024 6:43 pm
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…H. said

mrcvs said

Bert H. said

steve004 said

I'm surprised - this is a very experienced and knowledgeable seller.

  

I just finished chatting with him via email, and he admitted to using the Madis booklet... which he claims is going to be the feature item in his next book

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April 27, 2024 3:39 pm
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…straight grain Black walnut replacements and fit them professionally to the barreled action.

 

That "5%" remaining inletting required on "95% finished" replacement stocks probably requires more skill than I possess, though I've never tried it.  The master stockmaker it was my great good fortune…

…to meet 50 yrs ago has told be he'd rather start from a blank than any semi-finished wood.

  

I claim no expertise in inletting but, while Scott is fully capable of producing fine custom rifles from the blank, I could not have…

…afforded the work. What has always impressed me about him is his versatility (he can work in both metal and wood)  and (at one time) his willingness to do small jobs as well as full

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April 27, 2024 3:05 am
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…Y'all

 I've been meaning to share my 1895 saddle ring carbine I purchased several months ago, and I just got it back from being refinished. Somebody with seemingly little sense stripped most of the finish off the gun before it came into my possession, as it had minimal surface pitting…

…and crisp lines. The perfect candidate for a reblue. I believe it was manufactured in 1924, serial number 413,640B, 30-06 chambering. I shot the gun several times with 30-06 lightened down to 30-40 Krag ballistics before I sent it off and found it to be a

…date of the rifle.

Michael

  

Thank you Michael for the clarification. I had the 1903 date in my mind and I read it again recently on a previous forum here. What is the actual serial range for the knurling style change?

Thank you as well Bert, I too have made purchases from Mark and

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April 26, 2024 11:25 pm
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…updated it already. It is a pretty gun.

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April 26, 2024 10:38 pm
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…said

Bert H. said

steve004 said

I'm surprised - this is a very experienced and knowledgeable seller.

  

I just finished chatting with him via email, and he admitted to using the Madis booklet... which he claims is going to be the feature item in his next book

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April 26, 2024 10:30 pm
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…H. said

steve004 said

I'm surprised - this is a very experienced and knowledgeable seller.

  

I just finished chatting with him via email, and he admitted to using the Madis booklet... which he claims is going to be the feature item in his next book

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April 26, 2024 9:47 pm
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…straight grain Black walnut replacements and fit them professionally to the barreled action.

 

That "5%" remaining inletting required on "95% finished" replacement stocks probably requires more skill than I possess, though I've never tried it.  The master stockmaker it was my great good fortune…

…to meet 50 yrs ago has told be he'd rather start from a blank than any semi-finished wood.

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April 26, 2024 8:35 pm
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…the wood and keep the steel lubricated. A little antiquing of the wood with a bike chain and an awl, with a little black pore filler under a "pre-64" varnish, knocked back with 4-0 wool..... 

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April 26, 2024 8:23 pm
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…H. said

steve004 said

I'm surprised - this is a very experienced and knowledgeable seller.

  

I just finished chatting with him via email, and he admitted to using the Madis booklet... which he claims is going to be the feature item in his next book…

…interstate shipment of a modern firearm is a sizable favor.  I've talked to Mark on several occasions.  He's a stand-up guy.  I'm sure he was appreciative of the information.  Too bad everyone you contact is not as receptive.  I know it's no small number of sellers in that category.

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April 26, 2024 7:04 pm
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…said

I'm surprised - this is a very experienced and knowledgeable seller.

  

I just finished chatting with him via email, and he admitted to using the Madis booklet... which he claims is going to be the feature item in his next book

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April 26, 2024 5:35 pm
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…the Van Orden provenance was not recognized in the description.  By contrast, the three documented (and described as such) VO Snipers in the RIA Premier Auction before last brought $17-21K apiece...  

That said, what I was suggesting to the OP was a Penny Start - No Reserve GB Auction of

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April 23, 2024 8:17 pm
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…and blow it up in Photoshop enough diameters that I can see a little about its condition. Looks like yellow Euro wood and flat diamond checkering.  Pretty early, not used as a tomato stake. So I email the guy and he's anxious to give me the family history. His uncle was an SFPD robbery dick who

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April 23, 2024 7:45 pm
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…Brownell rifle the workmanship stands up but the inherent limitations of the design render it awkward. 

 Laying my face on top of a 48,000 psi pressure vessel and pulling the trigger would be,for me, the ultimate act of faith in the gas handling capacities of the Model 70 action, plus a

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April 22, 2024 10:14 pm
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…not adjusting to the left so I wanted to clean the dovetail. The rifle was made in 1913.

My question: What does the stamp under the dovetail represent?

  

Craig,

Can you post a series of photos of the rifle?  Or send them to me at [email protected]

Michael

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April 22, 2024 7:35 pm
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…not adjusting to the left so I wanted to clean the dovetail. The rifle was made in 1913.

My question: What does the stamp under the dovetail represent?

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April 22, 2024 7:00 pm
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…Jason-

Despite surveying pre-64 M70s on a daily basis, I tend to pay little attention to prices.  So what I say below may or may not reflect the current market.  I would suggest…

…that you go to the Rock Island Auction site and search Past Auctions (Premier and Sporting/Collector) for "Winchester 70 257".  I'm reasonably sure you can find at least a half dozen sold examples in the past couple years…

…compare to the condition of your rifle.  Of course RIA tends to reflect the "high end" of the market and their "Sold For" prices include the Buyer's Premium (not just the hammer price).  But at least it might give you a "top dollar" figure for your rifle.

That said, it seems to me that clean …

…(98%) all original (no added holes) pre-war M70s in 30 GOV'T'06 have climbed to as much as $3250 in the last couple years.  The 257 ROBERTS is a sought after chambering as it is less…

…common (although by no means rare in the pre-war period) and pleasant to shoot.  I suspect that an all original pre-war Roberts could bring over $4K these days, maybe $4250 or so. 

The issue is how much the scope mount affects the value.  There are a lot of…

…"purist" collectors (like me) out of the market. Some people "just can't get past the extra holes"... But a genuinely original high condition pre-war Roberts with just a single hole in the bridge for a Redfield JR one-piece base (which can be contemporary to the rifle), would have less…

….  Just includes LOTS of quality/well lit photos, like the way Dave Morris (Frontier Guns) does with his listings on GI or Justin Hale does on the Pre64win.com website.

Even as a registered forum member, you can't post photos directly here.  You can put them on an image hosting site and post

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April 22, 2024 2:01 pm
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…Clever_Name said

I emailed the photos I have to Pre64.com and their valuation expert rated in superb condition based on the photos. He said even though the rear receiver had been drilled and a scope…

…fitted, the scarcity of the rifle being a pre-war Type 1 Model 70 in .257 Roberts makes it sought after.  

Highly sought after, by anyone intending to shoot it--as opposed to lock it up

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April 22, 2024 1:00 pm
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…work to your firearm that you ask for, rather than a one-size-fits-all total high dollar restoration.  And it won't take two years to see your precious firearm again.  At least three of them spend a fair amount of time on this forum.  Mark

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April 22, 2024 12:03 pm
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Thank you for responding. I previously used the sites resource to determine the date of manufacture, that is where I got 1941 from. I am trying to figure out how to upload photos…

…here from my phone, and will do so once I sort that out. 

I emailed the photos I have to Pre64.com and their valuation expert rated in superb condition based on the photos. He said even though the rear receiver had been drilled and a scope…

…fitted, the scarcity of the rifle being a pre-war Type 1 Model 70 in .257 Roberts makes it sought after. 

-Jason

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April 22, 2024 12:03 pm
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…M. said

Twobit

S/N on the 1892 in question is 758639.  

Thanks so much.  I appreciate it.

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April 22, 2024 4:55 am
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…but I’ve never seen a bullpup model 70.

I’m not sure who would buy this but to each his own I guess.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1045124644

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April 21, 2024 11:30 pm
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…ll tell 'ya what, I'll gladly give You a reduced price for all them thar ferin' proofed Winchesters. Obviously being Canadian I prefer the Brit' proof marks, they tell a story , the gun has been there and done that, like the carbines that were involved in the sinking of a German u…

… I love the history of these guns more than the prospect of one that beat around the praries , getting wore out lying across a saddle. Just personal preference.

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April 21, 2024 6:17 pm
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While I do enjoy the provenance of firearms and the individual history of specific rifles, they are better viewed in someone else's collection as I prefer to collect specimens as close as possible to how they left the factory.  For military firearms I also prefer specimens that have not been arsenal

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April 21, 2024 5:09 pm
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…his belongings so his wife had less to deal with.

 On to the rifle. It’s a model 1892 takedown in 32-20 made in 1903. The stock has been refinished as the wood around the tang is low. There is also a repaired crack in the fore stock. Now on to my question. The metal of the receiver and…

…wanted. I have good photos in the sun that clearly show the condition but I don’t have anyway to put them up. If anyone can assist it would be appreciated. This site and the guys on it are an invaluable resource. Thank you in advance.

one thing to add. It appears that someone cleaned of the

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April 21, 2024 1:25 pm
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…at that time. I’ll respect that even if It doesn’t meet today’s standards. I study old guns to learn more about the people that used them. Gun refinishing was part of maintenance for guns that were used hard, every day. TXGunNut said

What I dispute is that sanding the wood constituted

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April 21, 2024 3:17 am
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… there must have been a LOT of surface rust; but what else was there to do once it has been allowed to fall into that cond?

  

Removing all the finish and pitting is the first step of a good refinishing job. Next logical step was a total re-blue. Apparently that wasn’t in the cards for this 92.…

… We’ll never know why the finish was removed but an abundance of surface rust is as logical as any scenario. Sometimes guns are abandoned or neglected, we’ll probably never know why

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April 21, 2024 3:00 am
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…at that time. I’ll respect that even if It doesn’t meet today’s standards. I study old guns to learn more about the people that used them. Gun refinishing was part of maintenance for guns that were used hard, every day. The guns I use every day aren’t pretty but when they need to be refreshed a bit

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April 21, 2024 2:42 am
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…said

I believe at least one previous owner of this rifle scrubbed off the rust and applied a fresh coat of varnish (after a bit of sanding to remove dents and scratches) every

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