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Lyman 5-A Combination sight with the logo stamped into the fold down globe. Sight has the pin and Barleycorn flip up sights.

 Lyman 2-A has the logo on the tang part. No markings on the staff.    Thanks, Big Larry

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“By 1910” is what the Lyman Centennial Journal says about the 5A & 5B.

1899 given as start of the #2.  Some suggestion these dates are approximations, as early Lyman catalogs weren’t dated.  Moving name to base was the last change in sight.

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“By 1910” is what the Lyman Centennial Journal says about the 5A & 5B.

1899 given as start of the #2.  Some suggestion these dates are approximations, as early Lyman catalogs weren’t dated.  Moving name to base was the last change in sight.

  

The M06 I have is from 1930. Are these sights period correct or later additions? It’s really hard to tell for this novice sight guy to tell. They both match the condition of the gun and show no damage from installation on the sight base or on the bbl.. Some folks put the sights on with a BFH. Big frigging hammer. The bbl. shows no sight scratches leading me to believe it never had a rear sight. Thanks Clarence.  Big Larry

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The M06 I have is from 1930.Big Larry said  

Think that date is about right for the change in marking on the tang sight from stem to base.  At some point, Lyman stopped marking the 1891 pat date on the #5 globe, but no way to know when; probably when die wore out.

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clarence said

The M06 I have is from 1930.Big Larry said  

Think that date is about right for the change in marking on the tang sight from stem to base.  At some point, Lyman stopped marking the 1891 pat date on the #5 globe, but no way to know when; probably when die wore out.

  

Thanks again Clarence. BTW, you would probably like that last # 3170 M52 I just got. None of the problems # 1225 had. A perfect bore for one. Big Larry

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Thanks again Clarence. BTW, you would probably like that last # 3170 M52 I just got. None of the problems # 1225 had. A perfect bore for one. Big Larry

  

There’s no gun you own, or formerly owned, I wouldn’t “like” extremely.

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Thanks again Clarence. BTW, you would probably like that last # 3170 M52 I just got. None of the problems # 1225 had. A perfect bore for one. Big Larry

  

There’s no gun you own, or formerly owned, I wouldn’t “like” extremely.

  

Looking at old catalogs and a 1933 Lyman book, I see all have pics of the sights with the address and logo on the base. Pat. dates around the stem. The pat. dates are very small, and I may have missed them. I will recheck today when Tom comes over to take the 2 rifles home for a deep clean and Ren Wax. If you are ever in the neighborhood, I will give you a rifle. I take care of my friends.  Big Larry

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Big Larry said If you are ever in the neighborhood, I will give you a rifle. I take care of my friends.  Big Larry
  

Very much obliged, Larry, but my tether is as short, or shorter, than yours; to me, 50 miles is (mentally) a “day’s drive.”  100 miles, like the other side of the moon. 

As for catalog illustrations, you can’t trust them, at least when they’re artists’ drawings.  They sometimes show markings that aren’t actually on the product itself.

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Big Larry said If you are ever in the neighborhood, I will give you a rifle. I take care of my friends.  Big Larry

  

Very much obliged, Larry, but my tether is as short, or shorter, than yours; to me, 50 miles is (mentally) a “day’s drive.”  100 miles, like the other side of the moon. 

As for catalog illustrations, you can’t trust them, at least when they’re artists’ drawings.  They sometimes show markings that aren’t actually on the product itself.

  

You got me beat. My Grandson does all my driving. It is very cold here, so he drives my truck to work. Too cold for his M/cycle. So, most of the time I have no way to go anywhere. My friend Tom is a BIG help. Between the two of them and my housekeeper, I manage to get groceries and get to my Drs. appts. All my gun deals are done through the Internet. So far, so good, on that account. I really miss the gun shows.   Big LarrySmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

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Clarence, pulled the sight off. Code is WS which is correct. The only thing missing is the patent date that goes around the stem. The book states that some were not marked with the patent date. getting some pics of the stamped logo on the 5-A front sight. More and more, it seems that these sights may have been factory applied. Still, we may never know.   Big Larry

 

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The only thing missing is the patent date that goes around the stem. Big Larry said

  

Not really “missing”; that marking phased out when Lyman name moved to base.  Be careful with that screwdriver! 

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clarence said

The only thing missing is the patent date that goes around the stem. Big Larry said

  

Not really “missing”; that marking phased out when Lyman name moved to base.  Be careful with that screwdriver! 

  

Toms doing it. He should have been a gunsmith instead of an Engineer. He has the proper tools. Will deep clean the two rifles, and Ren Wax them. Larry

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Front sight pics just in.   Big Larry

 

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That’s a marking I’ve never seen (or noticed) before, & much more deeply struck than the previous 1891 marking, often so lightly impressed that a magnifying glass is required to make it out.  Evidently, at about the same time as the tang sight marking was changed, this one was also revamped.  Well, not very surprising, as roll dies do wear out.

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