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Rare 62b Unicorn Sighting!!!
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I’m pretty sure most of you have one of these in your collection……..its taken 3 years and had to trade three of my sights to get this one! Laugh 62b-1.jpgImage Enlarger62b-2.jpgImage Enlarger 

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Manuel,

Did you get the spring with it?

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Hi Bob,

 

Yes I did. It was sitting underneath the sight when I took the picture. 

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Manuel thats good, There is another variation to the 62b that uses a more elaborate spring which is very hard to make.

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I’ll bite, what are we looking at? How does it work? I’m a fan of tang-mounted peep sights and if I’m lucky enough to stumble across one I’d like to know what it is.

 

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Its the Winchester 62b (Folding Peep) which was made for the 1873 but they advertised them for the other models and they did make a shorter version that is very rare. It folded down flat so your thumb/palm goes over it  and you don’t have that big bump. When folded down the sight engaged a stud so the sight wouldn’t get pushed off to the side since it mounts on one screw. The problem they had is if they were installed on a gun that didn’t have the second tang screw, you didn’t have a stud to keep it in place and that’s why they never showed up on the other models. They were patented June, 14 1881

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Its the Winchester 62b (Folding Peep) which was made for the 1873 but they advertised them for the other models and they did make a shorter version that is very rare. It folded down flat so your thumb/palm goes over it  and you don’t have that big bump. When folded down the sight engaged a stud so the sight wouldn’t get pushed off to the side since it mounts on one screw. The problem they had is if they were installed on a gun that didn’t have the second tang screw, you didn’t have a stud to keep it in place and that’s why they never showed up on the other models. They were patented June, 14 1881

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Bob, would you say this (and the 62a) is one of the rarest Winchester sights?  

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Thanks, Bob! Your pic helped me figure out how it adjusts, tidbit about the stud is interesting too. Pretty cool little sight.

 

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Manuel,

The 62a by far is extremely rare sight, I would guess I’ve seen one every 10 years. I can count on one hand how many I’ve seen. The 62b is scarce but you see them around if you look. If you check a big auction house, it will probably have a gun with one on it. They will show up on Ebay a couple times a year.

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Didn’t some of the 73’s in 22 come with these?

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Chuck,

Yes, I have nine 22’s in my survey that letter with a Folding Peep.

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One of these sold recently but I did not bid on it and I can’t remember what it sold for???  Sadly I thought about bidding on it but didn’t.  I knew these were somewhat rare but I had no use for it.  I want to say it sold for around $700 ??  It was complete with the spring.

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I have seen minty ones sell for $1500 years ago but haven’t seen mint one for sale for while now.

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Very cool sight Manny, you don’t see those very often. I never really thought about the stud and spring being separate items (I’m guessing a lot of them are missing these parts). I’m not familiar with the spring position, does it fit under the sight as you mount it?

They are very aesthetically pleasing sights and really add to the curb appeal on 73’s. Congrats and thx for sharing.

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Here is the springs of the two variations. The top is what Manuel has and the lower is more rare variation with more complicated spring. The base and staff are machined differently along with other slight differences.

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pdog72 said
Very cool sight Manny, you don’t see those very often. I never really thought about the stud and spring being separate items (I’m guessing a lot of them are missing these parts). I’m not familiar with the spring position, does it fit under the sight as you mount it?

They are very aesthetically pleasing sights and really add to the curb appeal on 73’s. Congrats and thx for sharing.  

Thanks Gary.  The few i have seen online have gone from $750-1100.  I was lucky enough to make a deal with a couple of tang sights i had for this one.  3 sights in fact!

As to the pictures that bob posted, mine is like the top sight.  And i have all the pieces as well.  Very cool sight, now to put in on a deserving 73.Cool

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Gentleman,

I remember reading this post in the past. So I took the time to look it up and re read it. I have three of the 62 B sights like Manuel purchased,(the top one in Bob’s pic)! Over the years, when you buy out collections, you wind up acquiring things! The problem is I’m just now starting to try to find the time and go through stuff. That being said, all 3 do not have the spring’s, and one has a very old peened, on both ends, over pin, in place of the small pivot screw! With an old note “Possibly Bayes Patent experimental sight”, that I don’t believe ! Before I try to make, or get these parts re produced, to complete these sights, I was wondering if anyone has original parts, or knows where I could find them! I did not try looking into Homestead or Bob’s Winchester parts yet, as I will ! I thought I would try here first! Thanks in Advance!Smile

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I have never seen any parts or springs forsale, If I did I would of bought a bunch. The flat spring is real easy to make. All you need is a vice, hacksaw, drill , a file and a propane torch. Just the heat retreating is a little tricky.

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I’ve only seen this sights on a M1873, and rarely.  I was not aware they made them for any model other than the ’73.  I’ve never seen one on a rifle other than a ’73.

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I agree! I did forget to mention, naturally, I need the rear stud, to keep the sight intact, when laying down, from sliding sideways. I was thinking the same thing also, Bob. I have some Flat Spring Stock leftover from my Father in Laws Parts, as he was a Gunsmith, and taught me a lot, over the years. I could easily make up the 3 flat springs, and even the rear studs, from rear tang sight, mounting screws. The small 1/2 inch long by 15/128 dia., filister head screw, will be a little more challenging, once I determine the threads, and the remaining info. that’s needed! I was quite surprised that I had these hiding in the Bottom of the box, when I originally discovered them! I remember a friend of mine telling me that a gentleman was closing up his small gun store years ago, and if I would be interested in taking a ride, and see what he had left. Well a Henry Rifle, an 1895, in 405 cal. Rifle, and a few boxes of old ammo, and misc parts later, here we are! Smile

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