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I bought this Lyman tang sight at a gun show. It is marked DA on the bottom of the base, it has pat. jan 29.79 may 6. 84 at the base of the stem, and Lyman middlefield, conn usa on top of the base. see pictures. I want it for my 1900 vintage SN 147842, model 1892 semi deluxe in 32-20, which letters with a Lyman front and rear sight. Is this the correct sight?? Thanks, Al.
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Al,
That sight is not original. It is a pieced together sight. The bases were not stamped with the “Middlefield” marking on the No. 1 sights. Additionally, the elevation stem was installed backwards when somebody pieced it together. Finally, the “DA” marking was for the Mode 1894 smokeless powder cartridges (e.g. 25-35 WCF, 30 WCF, and 32 WS). The correct application code for the Model 1892 is “D”. Hopefully you did not pay much for that sight.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert,
Thanks for the response. I paid $275 for it. When I took it home and compared it to some information I found on-line, I suspected something was not right. Expensive lesson.
Al
Bert H. said
Additionally, the elevation stem was installed backwards when somebody pieced it together.
You would think the “re-assembler” would have had the sense to get THAT right!
But if he paid too much, I’ll bet he can recover his money by selling it on ebay…& playing dumb.
The guy didn’t even aline the doughnut spring correctly either.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Does anybody want to buy a parts sight?? I’ll sell it cheap. make an offer. Al
I’m not so sure this is a put together sight? I just could be a much later sight that someone put it back together wrong. Un-thread it and reposition the staff. It is as Bert said not for your gun. Someone with a 1894 of newer vintage might be able to use this.
Then again I could be mostly wrong.
Lyman sights were made in Middlefield, Conn.
Chuck said
It is as Bert said not for your gun.
Not “correct” according to Lyman’s app chart, but it could still be used, just as I’ve always used “incorrect” sights on the SS models I’ve had; the rifle didn’t know the difference. Assume there’s a difference in the staff height, but can’t believe it would interfere with shooting at reasonable ranges.
clarence said
Chuck said
It is as Bert said not for your gun.Not “correct” according to Lyman’s app chart, but it could still be used, just as I’ve always used “incorrect” sights on the SS models I’ve had; the rifle didn’t know the difference. Assume there’s a difference in the staff height, but can’t believe it would interfere with shooting at reasonable ranges.
What does Lyman’s app chart say?
What Bert said it did. Fortunately for my peace of mind, I was buying & using Lyman sights long before I ever saw an app chart; I was so simple minded that it the sight could be screwed down properly on the tang, & I could use it to hit what I was aiming at, I was satisfied.
I took the sight apart, realigned the elevation stem, and aligned the donut spring in the correct orientation. Trouble now is that the donut spring does not hold tension on the sight, as in when you raise or lower the sight. It is loose, and the donut moves with it, instead of staying in place.
Al,
Most definitely an intentionally pieced together sight.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Al,
Most definitely an intentionally pieced together sight.
Bert
Might wonder where the different pieces come from…except that I see separate bases & stems listed frequently on ebay. But I still wonder what purpose anyone would have in taking one of these sights apart.
tionesta1 said
I took the sight apart, realigned the elevation stem, and aligned the donut spring in the correct orientation. Trouble now is that the donut spring does not hold tension on the sight, as in when you raise or lower the sight. It is loose, and the donut moves with it, instead of staying in place.
Here’s one that can be bought for $80, missing only the stem:
Al, I have a 90% blue 1D Lyman for $200. It would match a 1892 with nice 90% blue. No scratches, light blue wear on the outside of the doughnut and top of stem. The D is correct for a 1892.
I think you have 3 parts of a four part puzzle. It might be wise to just buy a good one.T/R
TR said
Al, I have a 90% blue 1D Lyman for $200. It would match a 1892 with nice 90% blue. No scratches, light blue wear on the outside of the doughnut and top of stem. The D is correct for a 1892.I think you have 3 parts of a four part puzzle. It might be wise to just buy a good one.T/R
TR,
I just read your response again and missed the part about your 1D sight.
Would your 1D sight be correct for a model 1892 made in 1900?
Thanks,
Al
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