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Preferred Sights-- Lyman 21/38 or Tang Peep?
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June 6, 2021 - 3:44 pm
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This is  a question for those who use or used both tang and receiver sights. Which do you prefer and why?

I am considering adding a Lyman 21 to my Winchester 1886 in .33 caliber and my Winchester 94 in 38-55.

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Biggest diff is that tang sights can be added without alteration, must D&T for the 21.  Also have to pay twice as much for a 21.  A 21 with windage (a 38) would be a clear advantage over a tang, but otherwise I can’t see any huge practical advantage of one over the other, except that the 21 is faster to adjust.  Guess I’d prefer the 21, but mainly because it’s by far the scarcest, & I’ve been shooting with tangs all my life.

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I prefer the tang sight as it does not require permanent alteration (desecration?) to the rifle.

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mrcvs said
I prefer the tang sight as it does not require permanent alteration (desecration?) to the rifle.  

Alteration, yes, but if the D&T were done to a well-used gun with little finish, considering it “desecration” seems rather extreme.  Certainly wouldn’t recommend it on a high cond gun, however.

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 Jim, One thing to consider is when it comes time to sell the gun. If the sight does not letter to the gun or have a shadow under it you can remove it when you go to sell. A Lyman tang when removed does not leave extra holes in the receiver where the Lyman 21 does. “Drilling and tapping a receiver is permanent!”  T/R

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As long as the rifle has a peep sight I’m happy. I haven’t been able to see a sporting rear sight well  in decades.

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Definitely like the receiver sight or bolt peep over a tang sight, and blocky receiver sights never appealed to me.  The receiver sight or bolt peep preference has more to do with eye relief for me than anything else.  I seem to shoot more consistently with them than a tang sight with my aging eyes. 

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Here’s one on Ebay that has not ended yet. 

Bloody pricey! 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224478728843

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Yes, way too “pricey” in my opinion!

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No preference, just won’t drill holes to accommodate either. I also appreciate the later receiver sights and keep a couple in my parts box to install on rifles with the appropriate holes in the receiver if I decide to shoot it. 

 

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Aussie Chris said
Here’s one on Ebay that has not ended yet. 

Bloody pricey! 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224478728843  

Holy shirt, I can’t even BELIEVE that!  Only one I’ve got is on a ’95, but I’d take it off for that money!  Suspect, however, this is the kind of ebay craziness you only see once. 

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Suspect, however, this is the kind of ebay craziness you only see once.   

Want to make a bet on that ?  I highly suspect we will see this lunacy repeat itself several times in the near future.

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Bert H. said

Want to make a bet on that ?  I highly suspect we will see this lunacy repeat itself several times in the near future.  

I know what you mean…I’ve seen it before on ebay.  Something sells for an unprecedented price, igniting the greed in everyone who’s got the same thing to rush to put it up while the feeding frenzy lasts.  However, in my observation, it seldom produces the same results, because it takes TWO fat-cats who don’t give a damn what they pay to drive bidding to such extremes.

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Sold for only $916 with shipping.

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 Way to pricey unless you own the gun. An original gun in the same condition as the sight, with the holes in the receiver, and with a matching shadow of blue on the left side of the receiver. Maybe it letters that way. Sights get taken off, sights get added, and sights are valuable to the person that needs them. EBAY makes them visible. T/R

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 Way to pricey unless you own the gun. An original gun in the same condition as the sight, with the holes in the receiver, and with a matching shadow of blue on the left side of the receiver. Maybe it letters that way. Sights get taken off, sights get added, and sights are valuable to the person that needs them. EBAY makes them visible. T/R  

“Pricey” would be, say, $5-600; $900+ can only be called insane.  Needing one for a gun that had originally been ordered with that sight might explain it, except that it’s hard to imagine TWO bidders in that same unusual situation bidding against one another at the same time.  

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  Clarence, Maybe one person had the gun that lettered and just the other one was crazy. T/R

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My preference is for a Lyman 21 /38. I really like the appearance of them on a rifle. Also easier to adjust.  I do like tang sights as well (my eyes seem to shoot better with them), but find they can get a bit in the way / are a bit awkward for my hand. That said, I wouldn’t drill and tap a gun for a 21/38 unless it wasn’t a rough “shooter” already I guess.  Even then, not sure I would. At least with the tang sights, you can just throw it on the gun.

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I am curious, could a Model 71 Bolt with the Peep Sight be used?  Or would that cause head space problems?  RDB

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Roger,

A Model 71 bolt would need to be fitted to a Model 1886 receiver, but otherwise it would work. That said, it would be an expensive modification… a complete bolt with a correct No. 98A peep sight on it would cost you a healthy handful Ben Franklin’s.

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