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Model 1866 or Henry Fixed Rear Sight ID
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I have a Model 1866 Rifle made in 1868 with a fixed rear sight and am trying to identify who may have made it.

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I have a Model 1866 Rifle made in 1868 with a fixed rear sight and am trying to identify who may have made it.

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I’ve seen fixed sights for the Henry and 66 but they don’t look like this one.  How bout a picture of the receiver?

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Very nice gun Rob.  Now that both Les Quick and Doug Beneck have passed on maybe you could contact Norm Vagley?  If you have Les’ book he mentions all those that helped him out.  Long list of who may know something.

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Good suggestion.  One of the last old-timers left!

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Not that I suggest doing it, but just curious if you have removed the sight. If so, did it have any markings? The sight looks practically like it has never been removed since it was installed.

On a side note, Who do you think engraved it? An Ulrich?

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In that era a lot of 66’s were done by Nimschke

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In that era a lot of 66’s were done by Nimschke

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Bob I’m aware, but suspect that one may not be Nimschke.

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Thomas O’Connell.

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Maverick said
Not that I suggest doing it, but just curious if you have removed the sight. If so, did it have any markings? The sight looks practically like it has never been removed since it was installed.

On a side note, Who do you think engraved it? An Ulrich?

Sincerely,

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I really didn’t want to get into that here as I’m working on an article about the engraver and the gun for an upcoming issue in The Winchester Collector.  However, since you asked:

This gun is featured on page 42 of The Book of Winchester Engraving by R.L Wilson and for many years was misidentified as having been engraved by Louise D Nimschke and presented to the iconic Thomas F. O’Connor the principal international sales agent sales agent for Winchester who later changed his name to Thomas Emmitt Addis.  With newer information coming to light, the rifle is now properly identified as being engraved by Thomas F. O’Connell, a contemporary and rival of the famed Louise D Nimschke.  The styles and patterns of engraving are almost identical however O’Connell is well known for signing his skillful work with his initials T.F.O.C. at the balance point of the bottom of the receiver.  

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