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I have this Lyman sight and am unable to make out a code on the under side of the base.  It appears to be for an 1885 or 1886.  I believe it is a Lyman #1 Combination second variation.  The base is stamped, “MAY 6 84” the stem is stamped “JAN. 29./79”.  Any ideas?  RDB

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The eye disk makes it a #2, therefore 1905 or later.  The position of the stem midway on the base probably means for an ’86 or SS as you said, but why no app code I can’t say.

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 I think the Lyman sights with the open slot in the base were the early ones. Maybe it was made in the late 1880’s for a 85 or 86 and the staff post switched? T/R

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TR said
 I think the Lyman sights with the open slot in the base were the early ones. Maybe it was made in the late 1880’s for a 85 or 86 and the staff post switched? T/R  

Tim, stems were no doubt switched as I often see on ebay, but that slot was still around much later than the ’80s; for ex., the 103s were introduced in 1916, but still have it.  Can’t judge by catalog illustrations, as the same cuts were used until they wore completely out.

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clarence said

Tim, stems were no doubt switched as I often see on ebay, but that slot was still around much later than the ’80s; for ex., the 103s were introduced in 1916, but still have it.  Can’t judge by catalog illustrations, as the same cuts were used until they wore completely out.  

 The slot in the base being around until 1916 is new to me and changes my opinion, thanks. T/R

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clarence said
The eye disk makes it a #2, therefore 1905 or later.  The position of the stem midway on the base probably means for an ’86 or SS as you said, but why no app code I can’t say.  

The No. 2 sight was introduced in 1894, a good many years before 1905.  The year 1905 was the introduction on the No. 2A.

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rogertherelic said
I have this Lyman sight and am unable to make out a code on the under side of the base.  It appears to be for an 1885 or 1886.  I believe it is a Lyman #1 Combination second variation.  The base is stamped, “MAY 6 84” the stem is stamped “JAN. 29./79”.  Any ideas?  RDB

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I suspect that the elevation stem is not original to the base.  The Patent dates on the base indicate a pre 1894 production sight, most likely a No. 1 second variation.

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  Thanks Bert, The more I read the more I learn. T/R

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Thanks for the information.  Seems like each time I find something special it’s either fake or has been modified.  I will see if I can find a correct stem without the screw in cup.  At least it appears to be the correct stem replacement.

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I wish I had been able to get better information when I started collecting.  Your help has been very appreciated.   RDB

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