Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Early sporting rear sights
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 390
Member Since:
July 31, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 31, 2022 - 6:47 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

From my own modest collection I pulled out four sporting rear sights that would have been common on 1873, 1876, single shot, 1886 and 1892 sporting rifles.  Not sure about later models.  I think some of the later 1866 rifles used the sporting rear sight as well.

From left to right an early cloverleaf sight, then a buckhorn variation.  Early catalogs noted that rear sights were available with cloverleaf, buckhorn or any desired shape.  

The two sights on the right show the later, longer base variation.  The longer base variation starts showing in the 1884 catalogs.  The early variations of the long base sight have a fixed notch.  Later variations have an adjustable elevator with a little screw.  As far as I can tell, the adjustable variation first shows up in November 1887 catalog.

Knowing Winchester and looking at photos in Gordon’s 1873 survey books, it appears there were many variations on sporting rear sights.  

Does anyone know of these sporting rear sights that had the platinum sighting line?  I know some factory records list “Platina” sights without giving any more information.

IMG_4609.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_4610.JPGImage Enlarger IMG_4611.JPGImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1777
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 31, 2022 - 7:28 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

  Bill,

 I noticed the Express range marked elevator on the clover leaf sight, nice. T/R

Avatar
Montana
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 677
Member Since:
November 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 31, 2022 - 11:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I noticed the same thing.  The sight on the far left has an elevator that was exclusive to the model 1876 .50 Express caliber.  It has been my observation that these elevators only, have markings starting on the highest position  3, 2 1/2, 2, and 1 1/2.  They are also the only elevators I have seen that have a “V” notch in the highest position.  I have never seen this particular sight on anything other that the 1876 model in .50 Express caliber.   Having said that, this does not mean that this is the only correct sight for the 1876 in .50 Express.  I have had several that lettered with the later 3 leaf Express sight and a few others with the standard long leaf rear sight, marked 1876.  Very nice selection of sights Bill and great to see you in the Springs.  

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4459
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
June 1, 2022 - 12:26 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Here are two of the earlier ones on the left. The reverse sight found on the early 73’s up to about serial 1250, they are a oval shape and then right after that the were made with the dovetail forward but still the oval shape, 2nd from the left. After that they started the clover leaf and buckhorn. As to the express elevator, I got one on a early 73 with the bumps but no elevation marks.

Bob

IMG_2912.JPGImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments
WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 638
Member Since:
March 14, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
September 30, 2024 - 3:25 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill Hockett said
From my own modest collection I pulled out four sporting rear sights that would have been common on 1873, 1876, single shot, 1886 and 1892 sporting rifles.  Not sure about later models.  I think some of the later 1866 rifles used the sporting rear sight as well.

From left to right an early cloverleaf sight, then a buckhorn variation.  Early catalogs noted that rear sights were available with cloverleaf, buckhorn or any desired shape.  

The two sights on the right show the later, longer base variation.  The longer base variation starts showing in the 1884 catalogs.  The early variations of the long base sight have a fixed notch.  Later variations have an adjustable elevator with a little screw.  As far as I can tell, the adjustable variation first shows up in November 1887 catalog.

Knowing Winchester and looking at photos in Gordon’s 1873 survey books, it appears there were many variations on sporting rear sights.  

Does anyone know of these sporting rear sights that had the platinum sighting line?  I know some factory records list “Platina” sights without giving any more information.

IMG_4609.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_4610.JPGImage Enlarger IMG_4611.JPGImage Enlarger

  

Nice sights Bill. Wish I owned them. Could you measure them and reply if you still have them. 

Thanks 

 Rick C 

   

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 11508
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
September 30, 2024 - 4:34 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill,

Superb!  Keep up the great work educating us here on the WACA forums, and your excellent collection. Cool

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 390
Member Since:
July 31, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
September 30, 2024 - 5:31 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I hope this helps

IMG_6441.jpgImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 638
Member Since:
March 14, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
September 30, 2024 - 5:42 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill Hockett said
I hope this helps

IMG_6441.jpgImage Enlarger

  

Thank you Bill that’s perfect. 

 Rick C 

   

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7089
TXGunNut: 5552
Chuck: 4988
steve004: 4636
1873man: 4459
Big Larry: 2441
twobit: 2348
mrcvs: 1928
TR: 1777
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 17
Topics: 13450
Posts: 118554

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1892
Members: 9263
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation