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What Winchester is this “B4” scope meant for ?20220605_160116.jpgImage Enlarger

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Hi Henry,

The Winchester B3, B4 and B5 scopes were not supplied as standard on any specific Winchester model but were offered as an option on many rifles from 1909-1917.

The Winchester A5 was offered up until 1928 when the design and remaining parts were sold to Lyman.

The prefix letter indicates the style of scope and the number after the letter indicates the scope power.

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OK , Thanks for the information and  reply . This one fell in My lap along with some 32-40 ammo and a couple of Lyman “DA” tang sights today.

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Henry,  the Bs were designed to provide greater eye relief than the A model at the cost of narrower fields of view; there’s no avoiding that kind of trade-off in optical design.  But having the scope positioned further from the shooter’s eye not only diminished its brightness, but because the exit pupil is so small, perfect alignment of the eye with the optical axis of the scope was required to avoid “black-out.”  Early tests of this scope were uniformly negative, compared to the A5, which is why it was eventually dropped from the line.  Still, it might be a good scope to mount on a 52 or other bolt-gun, as it could be moved far enough forward to clear the bolt handle.  (Though that was not the intention when it was introduced.)

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Let me know if you want to get rid of it, it would look good next to my recently acquired B5.

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JWA said
Let me know if you want to get rid of it, it would look good next to my recently acquired B5.

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The rare one is the B3–I’ve never seen one.  That one should provide a brighter field than the higher mags.

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The Winchester B3, B4 and B5 telescopes were used on late production Single Shot rifles.  I have found a number of them listed in the factory ledgers.

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Feckers answer to the Winchester scope series. He used Winchester Grasshopper mounts until he invented his own. These are rare. Big LarryDSCF0526.JPGImage EnlargerDSCF0530.JPGImage Enlarger

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clarence said

The rare one is the B3–I’ve never seen one.  That one should provide a brighter field than the higher mags.  

 

Yes, I have been on the lookout for a B3 for quite awhile but have not run across one either.

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Feckers answer to the Winchester scope series. He used Winchester Grasshopper mounts until he invented his own. These are rare. Big LarryDSCF0526.JPGImage EnlargerDSCF0530.JPGImage Enlarger

  

Nice early Fecker!

Thanks for sharing the pics. 

I am still planning on stopping in for a visit either on my up to, or returning from Cody next month.  Lunch is on me.

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Since Tony died, and  Julie left, things have been going downhill at Bruno’s. Smaller portions and higher prices. Food is still OK, but not like it used to be. I will be very happy to see you. I recently gave my two Vets one rifle apiece for their long support of my cats.  Big Larry

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Since Tony died, and  Julie left, things have been going downhill at Bruno’s. Smaller portions and higher prices. Food is still OK, but not like it used to be. I will be very happy to see you. I recently gave my two Vets one rifle apiece for their long support of my cats.  Big Larry

  

Well that’s a bummer, Bruno’s food was the only reason I came to visit you 😉

I am sure you have a back-up plan, no good Marine takes a dump without a backup plan.

Looking forward to catching up with you, no matter where we eat (or not).

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It’s still better than most. There is another sandwich shop in Cedar that’s pretty good. Tom and I went there last week and they were out of hamburger. I was set to have a Patty Melt.

Have not been buying guns lately. A friend gave me a near new in its original box, SW M19-3  6″ bbl.

I wish you had the time to go shooting when you are here. I would let you sight in my Van Orden Sniper rifle. Had it for years, and have never fired it. Larry

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I wish you had the time to go shooting when you are here. I would let you sight in my Van Orden Sniper rifle. Had it for years, and have never fired it. Larry

  

I will take you up on that offer since I would like to see how it compares with mine.  I finally got the correct vintage Super Targetspot scope on it.

I need to test your Thompson also 😉  I’ll bring the ammo.

 

Henry,

Sorry to hijack your thread, I hope we answered all of your questions.

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