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I have a tang sight , the only marking I can see is a tiny DA on the underside It has the larger ( .222 OD ) threaded hole to take an eye-cup I think it may have been original to my Mod 94 circa 1904 , 38-55 ? , as when I removed it the Blue and tang markings seem new as if always been covered by the tang sight

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Phil,

The "DA" marked sight was made for the following;

Winchester Model ’94, 25-35 WCF, 30 WCF & 32 Winchester Special, Winchester Model 53, 25-20 WCF & 32 WCF, Winchester Model 55 all calibers, and the Winchester Models 64 & 65 all calibers.

The correct sight for a Model 1894 in 38-55 is marked "D".

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Thanks Bert, Do you know what year both D & DA were introduced ? For convenience for shooting I do prefer the screw in eyecup feature , but think it came later than the flip up insert , Which gives only 2 choices ,ghost ring or flip up . the flip up seems big to me when in good light target shooting

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I wouldn’t know if it’s factory or not for sure. It’s always possible someone put it on your gun a long time ago but post-factory. I have a D and a DA that are from the 1890s-early 1900s and the adjustment sleeve on the D is definitely longer than the one on the DA and I’m guessing the sight stem is too. I think it will depend on velocity, the front sight and how far you are shooting as to whether the DA will work on your 38-55. I have no experience with that caliber. Maybe the factory ammo by 1905 was higher velocity and it worked fine?

The Lyman tang sight with a screw in aperture will be a No.2 or No.2A if it has the locking lever.

I believe the No.1 with the flip out aperture or No.2 with the screw in aperture would have been available in 1894 as per "Old Gunsights" No.1A or 2A would be around 1905 according to the same reference.

My best guess is a D application code came out for the 1892 and a DA came out for the 1894. I would think they would have been introduced not long after those rifles were introduced. That’s just my best guess, maybe Bert or someone else knows for sure.

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Phil,

The "D" coded sight was introduced for the Model 1892, most likely in that year. The Model 1894 smokeless powder cartridges were not introduced until mid-year 1895, so it stands to reason that the "DA" coded sight was not introduced until the latter part of the year 1895.

As for the Lyman No. 2 (screw in aperture disc) tang sight, it was introduced in 1894. The No. 2A (locking lever) was introduced in 1905.

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The Model 1894 smokeless powder cartridges were not introduced until mid-year 1895, so it stands to reason that the "DA" coded sight was not introduced until the latter part of the year 1895.

That makes sense. Thanks Bert.

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Thanks Bert and Brad for info . It males sense that my DA was for the smokeless cartridges , as I have to have the DA all the way up on the 38-55 (barely grabbing ) to reach 300 M with the lowest Lyman 17a front. I install target aperture sights on all my guns as I want to get best accuracy , but label the originals that came with the guns , so they will be back on the guns someday. I realize that some are replacement sights. so l will get the sight book someday. I often get bargains on great shooters because they dont have the original sights that Collectors demand, and Im putting on Target sights for my own satisfaction anyway, Im like a kid at Christmas gettin a new gun , I cant wait to get those sights off , and see what it will really do . And Im usually very pleasantly surprised and satisfied . (Yes I know Im an uncouth Collector, hope my plug isnt pulled on the forum) Aging eyesight and desire to still shoot tight groups is my excuse. And no Im not going to drill and tap for scopes

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      What, exactly, are the differences between the D and the DA sights ?     One of the ’92’s I bought had a tang sight on it.     Being

the curious sort, I took it off to check it out.    The underside was stamped DA.     That’s why I ask the above question:  the DA sight

seems to work fine on my ’92  .32-20, at least out to 100 yards.

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To get away from the double spacing, you just keep typing and let the the text wrap around on its own. Every time you hit the enter  button the editor thinks you are starting a new paragraph and double spaces.

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Can anyone confirm the correct Lyman tang sight for a model 53 is a D code?, the same as for the 92’s & 38-55 & 32-40 m94’s. I have one on my model 53 stamped 2A D under the base which means 2(disc) A(locking lever). Just wanted to confirm the model 53 is still a D code. 

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’33 catalog lists DA for .25 & .32.  .44 not specified.   (What would be the diff between the three anyway?)

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Thanks Clarence. I guess the only thing correct about the one I have is the 2A. It must be a 38-55/32-40 D code for 94’s.

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RickC said
Thanks Clarence. I guess the only thing correct about the one I have is the 2A. It must be a 38-55/32-40 D code for 94’s. 

D also listed for all ’92s.  If the screw holes match, I’m good.

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The problem with mine is it has a no1 stem with flip down aperture and no threads as it should be where it’s stamped 2A. 

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RickC said
The problem with mine is it has a no1 stem with flip down aperture and no threads as it should be where it’s stamped 2A.  

In that case I’ll give you $10 for it, or as you’re a friend, I’ll make it $15.  On ebay right now, someone is selling a bunch of parts, inc a stem, search “Lyman tang sight” & you’ll find it.

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