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September 25, 2021 - 8:06 pm
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I have an 1895 Winchester 30 gov’t 06 SN 93657 B. It is fitted with a Lyman 21 receiver sight and also a Lyman folding rear sight I doubt the rear sight is original to the gun. I would appreciate your thoughts based on the attached photos. Don

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The Lyman 21 receiver sight possesses a patina incongruent with the bluing of the receiver, strongly suggesting it is a later addition.

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The Lyman 21 receiver sight possesses a patina incongruent with the bluing of the receiver, strongly suggesting it is a later addition.  

Maybe, but compare it with the finish on the bottom & sides of the mag–not too dissimilar.  Sticking out on the side of the rcvr would expose it to more handling & also protect the finish on the rcvr.  Even if it’s aftermarket, I’d rather have a ’95 with a non-original 21 than the same gun with only the open sights.

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Nice gun. A folding rear sight makes sense with a receiver sight and I would expect to see varying amounts of wear on the different parts of a rifle that has seen a fair bit of use as this one has. Removing the sight and examining the receiver and back side of the sight may provide better clues.

 

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I believe the rear folding sight is from later time period production.  Should have a Lyman #6 to be time period correct.  An easy fix.  RDB

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Roger, I too thought a Lyman 6 was proper but the only caveat would be that with a serial no in 93000s would this have made a Lyman 16 proper? With my limited knowledge I believe it is fitted with a Lyman 16. Also the rear of the receiver sight bears the code WR which makes it intended for a model 1895. Any additional thoughts will be appreciated. Don

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According to the “Old Gunsights” book, the #16 was introduced in 1955. Thus, my conclusion of the later production period for the sight.  RDB

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 Removing the 21 and look if there is nice blue under it. That would be the evidence that a 21 was on the gun from day one.

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Folks, model 21 sights often can be elevated all the way to provide a view of the protected area of the receiver plus the back side of the sight itself.  Easier and less chance of damage to screws by the unwary, etc.  Most likely if the sight or one like it was on from an early time, there will be a nicely blue “shadow” under the sight.  My take, at least.  Tim

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