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Winchester Nickel Steel Model 1912 12 GA Full
August 14, 2023 - 4:18 pm


This gun I had dated as made in 1916. It is in pretty rough shape. It has a ventilated choke tube made by Lyman, Middlefield Conn. MC725 Cutts. I am considering restoring. Is this a valuable gun? Should I leave it in original condition?

Kingston, WA
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August 14, 2023 - 4:27 pm


Hello Michael,

The serial number will tell us what Month & Year the gun was manufactured.

The Cutts Compensator on the end of the barrel is not factory original.  As it is marked on the barrel, it was originally manufactured with an integral Full choke.

The fact that the gun is in “rough shape” and that it has been altered from original (the barrel shortened and the Cutts Compensator installed) indicate that it is not a valuable gun.  Nothing that you do to the gun going forward will affect its value.


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Posts: 4514
August 14, 2023 - 4:41 pm


I would not put money in this gun.  You will never get your money back.  If you like the Model 12 shotguns buy a nicer one.

August 15, 2023 - 6:02 pm


Thanks for the response, I already started to restore it, the wood is gorgeous and the metal is better than I thought. The serial # is 157087. what little research I did dates it to 1916. Sucks they modified it with the Lyman compensator.   It will look nice on the wall.

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August 16, 2023 - 4:00 pm


According to the info on this site it was made in 1916.  Maybe you could find another gun and use the barrel?

August 25, 2023 - 10:15 pm


Since it’s essentially worthless now, these are the sort of Model 12’s that make a great home defense pump gun. No rib on most of them, makes doing the cut quick and simple. They can be cut down to a very handy package size, no disconnector makes for fun at the range. Keep the barrel greater than 18″ and the overall length greater than 26″ Use a dowel down the barrel to assure over 18″ please. A heavy nylon strap affixed to the bottom of the forend corncob can help keep a wayward mitt off the muzzle. Helps keep the muzzle down too. IMO cutting down an otherwise useless Model 12 is a good thing to do.

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