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What year did Winchester start marking model 12 20 1/2” barrels riot instead of CYL
Riot Gun barrels were all CYL bore and marked accordingly. To the best of my knowledge, Winchester did not mark them “RIOT”.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Does it have a mail order proof mark stamp on it? Have you checked for a 2-digit year number stamped on the bottom of the barrel. Like I previously mentioned, I have not ever seen a factory Model 12 Riot Gun marked “RIOT” (until today).
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I only see a line on the bottom were would the mail order proof be and what would it look like
The proof mark stamp should be on the top of the barrel, right next to the take down extension ring. What is the serial number on the gun (that will tell me when it was manufactured) ?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
It is not on a gun it is just a barrel never been on a gun. It was still wrapped in paper when I got it. There is not a stamp on top I thought that meant it was a replacement barrel. Only thing on it is in picture.
Bayoujim said
It is not on a gun it is just a barrel never been on a gun. It was still wrapped in paper when I got it. There is not a stamp on top I thought that meant it was a replacement barrel. Only thing on it is in picture.
OK, and that explains it… it is a mail order replacement barrel. Winchester’s factory original Model 12 Riot Guns were not marked “RIOT” as was done on that barrel.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert, do you think the word Riot was roll died? Notice the round marks on the bottom of the letters.
Chuck said
Bert, do you think the word Riot was roll died? Notice the round marks on the bottom of the letters.
I suspect that a roll die was used to mark it.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder.
Bayoujim said
So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder.
No, it does not, and I believe that Winchester most likely marked it. However, it was not a standard production barrel.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bayoujim said
So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder.
My question to Bert had nothing to do with it being not correct. I just have never seen something like this and the word RIOT is not marked in the usual font.
I have seen another Model 12 commercial riot barrel marked the same way. It was a loose barrel (not attached to a receiver). Seems that Winchester may have marked late production Model 12 replacement riot barrels this way.
With no 2-digit year number on them, they would have been made after 1955.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I was going to put it on late model but I think it’s more interesting not. I only paid 135.00
Hi,
I also have two identical factory WINCHESTER MODEL 12 barrels marked RIOT rather than CYL
I received mine the same way as FACTORY replacement barrels in new, white cardboard barrel boxes.
I have previously spoken to Bert – greetings to you!
All the best
Geof
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