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Riot barrel
May 19, 2020
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What year did Winchester start marking model 12  20 1/2” barrels riot  instead of CYL

May 19, 2020
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Riot Gun barrels were all CYL bore and marked accordingly.  To the best of my knowledge, Winchester did not mark them "RIOT".

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May 19, 2020
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May 20, 2020
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Does it have a mail order proof mark stamp on it?  Have you checked for a 2-digit year number stamped on the bottom of the barrel.  Like I previously mentioned, I have not ever seen a factory Model 12 Riot Gun marked "RIOT" (until today).

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May 20, 2020
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I only see a line on the bottom were would  the mail order proof be and what would  it look like 

May 20, 2020
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The proof mark stamp should be on the top of the barrel, right next to the take down extension ring. What is the serial number on the gun (that will tell me when it was manufactured) ?

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May 20, 2020
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It is not on a gun it is just a barrel never been on a gun. It was still wrapped in paper when I got it. There is not a stamp on top I thought that meant it was a replacement barrel. Only thing on it is in picture. 

May 20, 2020
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It is not on a gun it is just a barrel never been on a gun. It was still wrapped in paper when I got it. There is not a stamp on top I thought that meant it was a replacement barrel. Only thing on it is in picture.   

OK, and that explains it... it is a mail order replacement barrel.  Winchester's factory original Model 12 Riot Guns were not marked "RIOT" as was done on that barrel.

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May 20, 2020
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Bert, do you think the word Riot was roll died?  Notice the round marks on the bottom of the letters.

May 20, 2020
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Bert, do you think the word Riot was roll died?  Notice the round marks on the bottom of the letters.  

I suspect that a roll die was used to mark it.

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May 20, 2020
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So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder. 

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Bayoujim said
So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder.   

No, it does not, and I believe that Winchester most likely marked it.  However, it was not a standard production barrel.

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May 21, 2020
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Bayoujim said
So does that mean Winchester did not do it? I got I awhile back tried looking it up on line only found 1 thing Some one said they did it in the 60s.I figured it was a replacement barrel. Have not found any one that has seen one. I would think if it was fake they would have marked it Cylinder.   

My question to Bert had nothing to do with it being not correct.  I just have never seen something like this and the word RIOT is not marked in the usual font.

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I have seen another Model 12 commercial riot barrel marked the same way.  It was a loose barrel (not attached to a receiver).  Seems that Winchester may have marked late production Model 12 replacement riot barrels this way.

May 21, 2020
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With no 2-digit year number on them, they would have been made after 1955.

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May 21, 2020
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I was going to put it on late model but I think it’s more interesting not. I only paid 135.00 

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