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Question on Rarity of Model 12 Configuration
January 22, 2016
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 I recently purchased a Model 12, 12 gauge, made in 1946 with a 28" solid rib barrel marked improved cylinder.  I was wondering how common this configuration is as while I am not really a model 12 collector this is the first one I have ever seen.

January 23, 2016
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David,

It is not even remotely common. I would describe it as "rare".

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January 23, 2016
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Bert:  Thank you for the information, I have collected model 70s since the early 70s but just started getting interested in model 12s.  I have a lot to learn, but it looks like I have found the right place.

January 23, 2016
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David,

Welcome to the best place on the entire www to talk "Winchester".

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February 22, 2016
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Bert H;

     I've never been big on Model 12s', I've owned 3 over the years. I sold one beautiful Trap gun a few years ago, and still have 2 remaining. One is a 1st year of production (1914) 12 gauge "Field Grade" with a 30" Full choke. NOT PRISTINE!!, but beautiful barrel with "Fair" wood. The other is a higher grade 12 gauge with "Fancy Grade" stock, Flat, semi Beavertail, ribbed forearm in the same "Fancy Grade" wood as the stock. (Probably added later) It has a 28" Modified Choked barrel with a solid rib, manufactured in 1927. It has engraving on either side. I think this too was added afterword. I also think it's one of the least expensive types of Winchester engraving styles. It has some scroll with a single duck flying. This on both sides of frame. It's been used but not abused. Is this one also fairly unusual?

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February 22, 2016
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Bert H;

     I've never been big on Model 12s', I've owned 3 over the years. I sold one beautiful Trap gun a few years ago, and still have 2 remaining. One is a 1st year of production (1914) 12 gauge "Field Grade" with a 30" Full choke. NOT PRISTINE!!, but beautiful barrel with "Fair" wood. The other is a higher grade 12 gauge with "Fancy Grade" stock, Flat, semi Beavertail, ribbed forearm in the same "Fancy Grade" wood as the stock. (Probably added later) It has a 28" Modified Choked barrel with a solid rib, manufactured in 1927. It has engraving on either side. I think this too was added afterword. I also think it's one of the least expensive types of Winchester engraving styles. It has some scroll with a single duck flying. This on both sides of frame. It's been used but not abused. Is this one also fairly unusual?

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Larry,

If the engraving was added after the fact, then No, there is nothing unusual about it.

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September 16, 2016
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Bert H.

  As you know or rather I think you might guess, I've never been a big collector of Winchester Model 12's, and don't know much about them. I do however have two remaining in my vault. One is a first year of manufacture 12 gauge field grade, 2 3/4" shells, with a marked "Full" choked 30" barrel with no rib. This gun was manufactured in 1914. My question on this shotgun is as follows. Is this gun considered a "5 for 5 gun"? My other is a Fancy Grained Wood Deluxe (I think) 28" barreled, solid rib, I/M choked with # 12/1 or 12/1b engraving. Although the engraving is very well accomplished, I'm not sure if it's Factory or not. The gun was manufactured in 1927. I would be happy to supply you with serial numbers when I open my vault if you deam it necessary. Thank you in advance.

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September 16, 2016
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I have no idea what you are referring to when you say "5 for 5 gun".

To be perfectly honest, the Model 12 is not my one of my strong points within the Winchester topic. I own exactly one Model 12 (inherited from my grandfather), and it is a 1927 production field grade gun with a 32" solid ribbed full choke barrel. I have studied (and collect) the Model 1893/1897 exposed hammer slide-action shotguns.

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