Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Finally have a Model 12 (42) in every gauge... Could use some help identifying; Standard? Duck? Skeet? Trap? Etc...
Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12989
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
21
April 10, 2024 - 12:29 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

28 gauge said

Bert H. said

Kevin Johnson said

The 28…

SN – 1613733, 1957, 28ga, 2 7/8″, SKEET, 26″ Simmons Vent Barrel – Skeet Gun?

 

20240407_124815.jpgImage Enlarger

20240407_124819.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124824.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124841.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124845.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124849.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124855.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124911.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_124932.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_125010.jpgImage Enlarger
20240407_125041.jpgImage Enlarger

  

Yes, it is a Skeet Gun, but with an aftermarket Vent Rib and recoil pad.  It was refinished when Simmons installed the VR.  It was manufactured in September 1954.

  

 Edit. Forget about that question. Brain not fully in gear. LOL It is the Winchester proof mark that is on the top, not the choke marking. There is no Winchester proof mark on the side so a plain barrel, with a Simmons vent rib installed. Am i correct on that.:)  

Yes, you are correct in your line of thought.  The “Skeet” marking is correct.  The fact that the Winchester Proof mark is underneath the VR is the clue that that it is an aftermarket alteration.  Still, it is nice gun and one that many would pay good money for.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Kevin Johnson
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 25
Member Since:
June 8, 2023
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
22
April 11, 2024 - 12:58 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

I know all gun values are based on what people are willing to pay…  Just in case I get hit by a bus, I try to keep records with model information and the approximate value of the items I own.  Most are pretty straight forward in the latest Blue Book of Gun Values, but does the 28ga fall under the Model 12 SLIDE ACTION chart since it didn’t originally have a rib, or under the Model 12 SKEET GUN table as a plain barrel without rib adjustment?

I appreciate all the information I am getting from this forum!

Model12.JPGImage Enlarger

Model12Skeet.JPGImage Enlarger

Regards, Kevin

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments
Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12989
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
23
April 11, 2024 - 4:19 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Kevin,

First, in my personal opinion, the Blue Book is a poor reference document as it applies to pre-1964 Winchester firearms.

Having stated that, the more correct reference would be the Skeet Gun table.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
tim tomlinson
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 917
Member Since:
September 19, 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
24
April 11, 2024 - 6:43 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Just to back up what Bert is saying, many years ago I USED to get the Blue Book for help.  Quickly realized the values reflected therein for the antique lever actions, at least, were woefully out of date at their publishing.  I would have LOVED to have been able to purchase the 1873’s for instance, at the values reflected in the Blue Book!  Just my take on the matter!  Tim

Avatar
28 gauge
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 889
Member Since:
March 23, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
25
April 11, 2024 - 7:02 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 I guess for myself,unless I wanted it as a shooter and the cost reflected that, I have little interest in a gun that has been reblued and had a non factory rib installed,but that is just me,others may have different opinions.Smile

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: Edward Kitner
Guest(s) 641
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6474
Chuck: 5876
steve004: 5210
1873man: 4703
deerhunter: 2713
Big Larry: 2559
twobit: 2505
mrcvs: 2213
Maverick: 2042
Newest Members:
drjjpdc
djwalsh
fzando
WASpalding
WinKorm94
Wallyg703
GunLegacy
tcwyb
spikemiller
ob98
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14817
Posts: 132607

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10054
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation