ROGER lane said
Ok Winchester 1892 carbine 32-20 stinger are thy the same money as a 92 carbine. can’t seem to find any values on them.
Roger,
There is NO GOD who sets a value on any Winchester rifle. If a rifle is Stinger marked some guys may like it and others may not deem it is worth any additional valuation. I know some guys in AU and NZ who like them but I personally see no extra Value to the gun. It only signifies that the rifle was shipped to Australia and sold via one retailer but there were thousands of rifles sold in Australia.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
ROGER lane said
I’am sorry red flag pops up so a Winchester stinger made in 1911 there is none for sale on the market and there’s 1000s of 1892s selling for the same prices as a stinger marked Winchester?
Roger,
I am going to reiterate what Micheal (twobit) stated…
Australian marked (exported) Winchesters typically do not have any premium value in the U.S. collector market. Generally speaking, they are found in much harder used (worn) condition, and in less desirable calibers. The reason you see so few for sale is simple… the vast majority of them were not re-imported back to the U.S. (for various reasons).
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Its kind of like an “error dated” barrel on an 1894, doenst add much if any additional value IMHO.
I like to be braggadocios in exclaiming I have an engraved 1873 rifle, the letter says its engraved, but the letter states “Engraved Daisy”. However, its just a plain old 44WCF with a button mag that has the “The Daisy Rifle” engraved on the barrel and went through an AU importer. For some folks, as in the case of the error date barrel markings, these may have added value, but if there is added value to be had, its in the eye of the beholder. Ive always viewed it more as a novelty than a rarity.
CH
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Ok guy’s thanks for the input. So the waffen marked pistols and rifles in the us should be the same price as a non marked gun? When thy do bring more money to buy. There a dime a dozen to choose from and my little rifle that you can’t find any for sale brings the same money. I get it i guess. thanks Roger
ROGER lane said
Ok guy’s thanks for the input. So the waffen marked pistols and rifles in the us should be the same price as a non marked gun? When thy do bring more money to buy. There a dime a dozen to choose from and my little rifle that you can’t find any for sale brings the same money. I get it i guess. thanks Roger
Roger… based on your last response, I do not believe that you get it. I sense that you are now being a bit of a “sour grapes” type.
For what it is worth, the pistols & rifles with the marking you mention are not Winchesters… and are a serious case of apples vs. oranges! You apparently do not grasp the difference between a firearm with military history, and an unrelated firearm with a simple importer’s marking.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
sorry it sounded that way i apologize I get it Bert when you put it like that. the 92 stinger doesn’t have a import mark on it maby a war bring back or never left the states in about 60 percent condition with good bore. i trust you guy’s word that’s why i ask the questions. Thanks Roger
ROGER lane said
sorry it sounded that way i apologize I get it Bert when you put it like that. the 92 stinger doesn’t have a import mark on it maby a war bring back or never left the states in about 60 percent condition with good bore. i trust you guy’s word that’s why i ask the questions. Thanks Roger
Roger,
When I stated “importer’s marking”, I was referring to “THE STINGER” and the Wasp markings on the barrel. Those markings were specifically roll marked on the barrels of at least several thousand of Winchesters that were imported by the Perry Brothers Ltd., Brisbane Australia.
In my research of the Winchester Single Shot rifles, I have thus far documented 1,018 that were imported by the Perry Brothers Ltd. I suspect that as many (or more) Model 1892s were imported by the Perry Brothers Ltd. (Michael can give us a better estimate). In addition to the Single Shot rifles and Model 1892s, a substantial number of other Winchester models were sold to the Perry Brothers Ltd. (e.g. Models 1873, 1894, 1902, 1904, 53, and 65 etc.). In total, it is extremely likely that more than 5,000 Winchesters marked “THE STINGER” were imported by the Perry Brothers Ltd. over a 40+ year time span.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Well I gotta horn in here, Being mainly a ’94 collector, when I run across a P.C.M.R. marked, a D.C.M. marked, a Spruce Gun , or even a British proofed ’94, I will usually pay a small premium just for the notion of knowing where the gun has been and what it was meant for. If I was big time in to ’92’s I for one would pay a little more for one marked “Stinger” . Just sayin’.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Tony. R said
Thanks Bert, yes it has. it created quiet a steer when it surfaced for the first time in over 120yrs
Tony,
For that sake of this topic, can you please post a clear picture of “THE STINGER” marking on the barrel?
Thanks,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Tony. R said
They will bring a slight premium out hear, especially if it is a trapper or short rifle. the start of the rifle or carbine history is not in question compared to winchester that could of been imported last month.
Tony,
This will probably make you feel good. Back in October of 2014 an identical tapper with SN 77754 was auctioned off at Julia Auction House in the state of Pennsylvania. It doesn’t look to have been quite as nice s yours and sold for $9775!!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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