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Kevin,
I’m not a ammo expert but I think they started around 1880 and continued through the turn of the century. The early ones have the carbine with a front barrel band and rifle rear sight. Then they changed the picture of a 32 caliber carbine that has the rifle front barrel ring and a carbine rear sight which is odd since the picture is only on the 44-40 boxes.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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1873man said
Kevin,
I’m not a ammo expert but I think they started around 1880 and continued through the turn of the century. The early ones have the carbine with a front barrel band and rifle rear sight. Then they changed the picture of a 32 caliber carbine that has the rifle front barrel ring and a carbine rear sight which is odd since the picture is only on the 44-40 boxes.
Bob
Thanks, great info.
I believe the 40-82 & 44-40 I posted are later, early 1900-ish.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin,
Look for a date code in the lower right hand side of the label. The later labels were dated
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Kevin,
I had the ammo disease years ago. I had to have a box for this gun, and then a better box and so-on. I was buying vintage ammo in bulk at auctions. Finally, I came back to sanity. There is a great book on Winchester cartridges, written by Ray Giles and Dan Shuey. rtgammo.com
Walter
Kevin Jones said
^ Wow, that’s cool! I haven’t seen one of those, approx what date would that ammo be?
I’m on the hunt now!!!
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Hi Kevin,
Ward’s Auction is sometimes a good place to look for these old boxes of ammo. They happen to have one of those old style 1873 44-40 boxes on the current auction–still sealed. I often see better deals here than on Gunbroker. They have a lot of decent Winchesters this time around too.
Here’s the link to the 44-40 ammo box:
https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=3046
Don
1873man said
Kevin,
Look for a date code in the lower right hand side of the label. The later labels were dated
Bob
The 44-40 box is coded 3-17 and the 40-82 box is coded 11-8
So I guess that would translate to March 1917 and Nov 1908 ?
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
deerhunter said
Kevin Jones said
^ Wow, that’s cool! I haven’t seen one of those, approx what date would that ammo be?
I’m on the hunt now!!!
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Hi Kevin,
Ward’s Auction is sometimes a good place to look for these old boxes of ammo. They happen to have one of those old style 1873 44-40 boxes on the current auction–still sealed. I often see better deals here than on Gunbroker. They have a lot of decent Winchesters this time around too.
Here’s the link to the 44-40 ammo box:
https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=3046
Don
Thanks, I will check that out.
For sale on GI;
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
wallyb said
Kevin,
I had the ammo disease years ago. I had to have a box for this gun, and then a better box and so-on. I was buying vintage ammo in bulk at auctions. Finally, I came back to sanity. There is a great book on Winchester cartridges, written by Ray Giles and Dan Shuey. rtgammo.com
Walter
Hey Wally, yep it’s easy to get caught up in it.
I’ve checked out Ray Giles site.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin,
$1600 is way too much for a sealed box. They should go for $800-$900.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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I do collect period to my rifle ammo. I have three different 44’s for my M1892’s. One sealed box of HV ammo and some real early stuff. My early M1892 is a 1901 vintage rifle. I also have period 32 special, 30-30, 32-40, 38-55 and 25-35. Looks good when displayed with the rifles. Big Larry
1873man said
Kevin,
$1600 is way too much for a sealed box. They should go for $800-$900.
Bob
Thanks Bob, even with what little I know it sounded way high. The sealed box on the Ward auction site doesn’t seem to be in as good condition, but I expect it will sell for quite a bit less than $1600.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
I also collect full ammo boxes for the various Model 1885 Single Shot Rifles that I have in my collection. I have at least 4 dozen full boxes of various WRACo cartridges, with the 40-90 Ballard and 50-95 WCF Shot cartridges being the rare ones.
Bert
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Bob,
In my opinion, $1600.00 is market correct for a sealed picture box with a excellent label. There are label pieces missing on both boxes. Ray Giles says these are fairly common , but I see less and less on the market. If you have a 90% 1873, you would want the best cartridge box.
Walter
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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