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Winchester Model 100 and Model 88 Change of Serial Numbers Question
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May 19, 2023 - 8:15 pm
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 Just wondering if any one knew , at what serial number did the Model 100 and Model 88 serial numbers change from the pre 64 checked style stocks to the post 63 basket weave style stocks?

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Don’t know about the 100, but the 88 is around the 150000 range.  You could most likely see some of the Pre 64 style up to perhaps the 152000 range.  Interestingly the first style post 64 stock for the 88 did not have pressed checkering on the bottom of the stock, and had the Pre 64 style grip cap.  There really is not a lot of information on the 88.  The Murray book is very questionable,  I found a lot of errors.  Most Model 88s are cambered in .308.  I believe that the .243 is rarer then most people believe.  Don’t see a lot of them out there compared to the .308.  Of course the .284, and the .358 have always been of interest to the collector.  I always liked the 88.  Even though it doesn’t get the respect it deserves.  Some day I believe it will.  A good book on these interesting rifles would shine some light on them.

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 Thanks for that.It would appear there is no firm seiral number change for the Model 88,just a rough area.Any one know of one for the Model 100?

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Bo Rich said
Don’t know about the 100, but the 88 is around the 150000 range.  You could most likely see some of the Pre 64 style up to perhaps the 152000 range.  Interestingly the first style post 64 stock for the 88 did not have pressed checkering on the bottom of the stock, and had the Pre 64 style grip cap.  There really is not a lot of information on the 88.  The Murray book is very questionable,  I found a lot of errors.  Most Model 88s are cambered in .308.  I believe that the .243 is rarer then most people believe.  Don’t see a lot of them out there compared to the .308.  Of course the .284, and the .358 have always been of interest to the collector.  I always liked the 88.  Even though it doesn’t get the respect it deserves.  Some day I believe it will.  A good book on these interesting rifles would shine some light on them.

  

I didn’t know the Murray book was very questionable.  This site has a lot of info too

 

https://www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/winchester_model_88_100_info.html

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 Interesting read,sb.Thanks for posting.From the article ,it would appear that the start Model 88 64 serial number was 160,307 and 92,016 for the Model 100.

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Mr. Murray stated in his book that he thought that the number of rifles in eah caliber was the same per year.  An example would be that in 1957 when the .243, .308, and the .358 were chambered in the Model 88 Winchester made the same amount of each. This is just not accurate.  I have had the book since it came out.  It does have some good information.  Perhaps, it just needs to be updated.  The 160,307 is the end od 1964, not the start.  The 148XXX would be the end of 1963.  So, I feel that perhaps you can still find a early 1964 gun with a Pre 64 style stock up to the 152,000 range.  I would not be afraid to add one to my collection with that combonation.  Again, not alot of information on these guns.  There were several minor stock design changes through production that most are not aware of.  One example would be that a Carbine with the W in the grip cap would be very suspect.  They were not made in that style.  When I see one I am sure that the 100 Carbine stock was used as a replacement.  The Model 88 is a very cool gun that reminds me of a slick Model 70 Featherwieght.  The people that used them can’t say anuff good about them, and that says alot.

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Hello 28 gauge,

I dug up an old list I made years ago for the Model 100; back then I was trying to establish when the grip medallion changed from the red W to the black design.

The list is very short but the first s/n with pressed basket I recorded was 85743, so a bit earlier then the 92016 reported above.  See attached the list, I hope this helps.

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Hello 28 gauge,

I dug up an old list I made years ago for the Model 100; back then I was trying to establish when the grip medallion changed from the red W to the black design.

The list is very short but the first s/n with pressed basket I recorded was 85743, so a bit earlier then the 92016 reported above.  See attached the list, I hope this helps.

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I am always very happy to see someone who can & does use an Excel spreadsheet to document observed production details.  I strongly encourage you to continue your research project, and then someday write an article discussing your findings! Cool

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The 160,307 is the end od 1964, not the start.  The 148XXX would be the end of 1963.

  

 Thanks for pointing that out ,Bo.My mistake.Embarassed

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Hello 28 gauge,

I dug up an old list I made years ago for the Model 100; back then I was trying to establish when the grip medallion changed from the red W to the black design.

The list is very short but the first s/n with pressed basket I recorded was 85743, so a bit earlier then the 92016 reported above.  See attached the list, I hope this helps.

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 Thanks for that information,Cowboy4.You do great work at putting Winchester information together.Are you by any chance a relative of Bert’s?Smile

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I own a model 100 that was made in 1964 during the transition and it does have the basketweave stock, SN 84812. I also own a few pre 64 and post 64 100s. I suspect at some point in the later part of 1964 is when the change happened. I do see some interesting info in leeroys ramblings but I am unable to detect any real changes in the model 100 from 1961-1973 other than with the stock checkering. Newer actions fit in the older stocks and older actions fit in the newer stocks. The carbine model 100s are stand alone as far as the stocks are concerned.

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