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March 25, 2022 - 12:36 am
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TR and steve004, thanks both for your kind reply.

I´m full agree with you, but I don´t undestand when TR say that I may came up with the original serial number. I´m sure that the original S/N is the engraved in the gun. At least, in Spain it is not allowed to modify it.

Nevertheles, what may I do for the Cody Museum lettered that the S/N it is in a range? Sorry but I don´t undestand well that concept.

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Miguel Angel Sarmiento Mediavilla said
TR and steve004, thanks both for your kind reply.

I´m full agree with you, but I don´t undestand when TR say that I may came up with the original serial number. I´m sure that the original S/N is the engraved in the gun. At least, in Spain it is not allowed to modify it.

Nevertheles, what may I do for the Cody Museum lettered that the S/N it is in a range? Sorry but I don´t undestand well that concept.

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Miguel Angel  

Miguel – the factory ledger records are not available for about two-thirds of the M1892 production – a little over a million rifles.  There are ledger records for about the first third of the total production.  These records typically have information about the features the gun was shipped with – such as chambering, barrel style, barrel length and other features such as half magazine, or special order features.  For your rifle, it would be interesting to know if it was shipped as a short rifle with the 20 inch barrel.  There is information on the WACA sight on how to order a letter from the Cody Museum.  Basically they just need to model of the gun, the serial number and payment – last I checked it was $75.

The serial number stamped on the barrel of this rifle was not done by the factory.  While it is logical that the original serial number was duplicated on the barrel, there is no proof it was.  Was the original serial number stamping (underside of the receiver) obliterated so that it could be engraved in that location?  

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Thank you for posting the photo of the underside of the receiver showing the serial number.  In the U.S., the serial number recreated that way on the bottom of the receiver would be viewed as quite suspect.  

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Miguel Angel Sarmiento Mediavilla said
 but I don´t undestand when TR say that I may came up with the original serial number. I´m sure that the original S/N is the engraved in the gun. At least, in Spain it is not allowed to modify it.

  

  Miguel,

 On a Winchester model 1892 the original serial number is applied by the factory under the receiver during manufacture. This is done in the same place with a stamping die, if at anytime the serial numbers are removed, changed, or re-stamped the identity of the gun is in question. That’s a legal question and a turn off for collectors.

 In the collector gun restoration market before and after photos are proof of serial number re-stamp, without proof the gun is in question and so is it’s value. T/R

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I gladly proceed to follow your instructions, and request the lettered to the Cody Museum.

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If I had that gun I would try to lift the original serial number from the bottom of the receiver.

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Thank Bob, I think the original S/N is the engraved in the bottom of the receiver as you can see in the photo uploades kindly for Michael.

Nevertheles, I send you an email with the mentioned photo.

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Miguel,

The serial number on the gun is not original. It has been restamped. Here are two examples of original serial numbers close to what that one is and you can see they are different fonts from what Winchester used. Most notable the “0” on yours is narrow were Winchester had a wider zero. Also Winchester never had the “N_” prefix before a serial number. The number was centered on the bottom of the gun.

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