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While we're discussing Deluxes, let's not leave out the M1895
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Yes, the lowly and often neglected M1895.  I like them.  Of course, I like .33 WCF’s and .32 specials too.  

Here is one I find very attractive.  About as attractive as a person could find given the very fancy wood.  It’s an antique, flatside, pistol-grip checkered, shotgun butt, factory letter… all appealing.  However, there are detractors that would keep me away.  Refinished barrel, refinished wood, recut checkering and the Lyman receiver sight doesn’t letter.  But, were the price right (i.e. for me that would have to be a couple thousand below the low end of the estimate), I could see myself enjoying this piece.  

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/81/1043/early-production-winchester-deluxe-model-1895-flatside-rifle

This is one I’m very curious as to where the bidding ends up.  The M1895 isn’t very popular and this one has some problems.

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Very nice! I think there will come a time when the “r” word will not turn off the majority of collectors but IMHO we’re not there yet. We’re already seeing collectors with deep pockets who don’t seem to notice or don’t care about some substantial departures from originality, it may come down to a matter of preference someday. Certainly a beautiful rifle.

 

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The 1895’s are really nice.  This is one that I might covet the most; it’s pictured at this link:  https://rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1895/model_95.shtml

Winchester 1895 Special-Ordered Second Model Sporting Rifle .405 WCF s/n 53166
mfg 1905 – 24” round barrel; Marble 2S ivory bead front sight; MSA Co.-marked tang sight; straight grain walnut stocks with crescent buttplate. Period-mounted Malcolm Model #3 Target & Hunting Scope (with original dust caps), marked “Wm Malcolm / 3626 / 2” and is mounted in the original factory rear sight dovetail and side of receiver in the hole position for a Lyman receiver sight. Receiver retains 60% blue; barrel 95% bright blue; hammer retains 60% case colors; buttplate retains 50% case colors; stocks retain a high degree of their original finish with some handling marks minor dings and mars; markings are sharp; action is excellent; bore is bright.
 
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The 1895’s are really nice.  This is one that I might covet the most; it’s pictured at this link:  https://rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1895/model_95.shtml

Winchester 1895 Special-Ordered Second Model Sporting Rifle .405 WCF s/n 53166
mfg 1905 – 24” round barrel; Marble 2S ivory bead front sight; MSA Co.-marked tang sight; straight grain walnut stocks with crescent buttplate. Period-mounted Malcolm Model #3 Target & Hunting Scope (with original dust caps), marked “Wm Malcolm / 3626 / 2” and is mounted in the original factory rear sight dovetail and side of receiver in the hole position for a Lyman receiver sight. Receiver retains 60% blue; barrel 95% bright blue; hammer retains 60% case colors; buttplate retains 50% case colors; stocks retain a high degree of their original finish with some handling marks minor dings and mars; markings are sharp; action is excellent; bore is bright.
 
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This gun has the same scope and mounting system that I have on my 73.  Mine is serial number 3008.

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steve004 said

The same seller also has quite the .405.  I don’t trust the wood/checkering.  I’m not holding it my hands either:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1895/winchester-model-1895-405-deluxe-take-down-in-high-original-condition-with-special-order-features.cfm?gun_id=101329551  

I don’t like the wood to metal fit.

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The 1895’s are really nice.  This is one that I might covet the most; it’s pictured at this link:  https://rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1895/model_95.shtml

Winchester 1895 Special-Ordered Second Model Sporting Rifle .405 WCF s/n 53166
mfg 1905 – 24” round barrel; Marble 2S ivory bead front sight; MSA Co.-marked tang sight; straight grain walnut stocks with crescent buttplate. Period-mounted Malcolm Model #3 Target & Hunting Scope (with original dust caps), marked “Wm Malcolm / 3626 / 2” and is mounted in the original factory rear sight dovetail and side of receiver in the hole position for a Lyman receiver sight. Receiver retains 60% blue; barrel 95% bright blue; hammer retains 60% case colors; buttplate retains 50% case colors; stocks retain a high degree of their original finish with some handling marks minor dings and mars; markings are sharp; action is excellent; bore is bright.
 
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This gun has the same scope and mounting system that I have on my 73.  Mine is serial number 3008.  

Chuck!  Pictures, man, pictures!!!  They would be really nice to see!

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James I have posted my 73 several times in the past.  I shot this gun a couple weeks ago and posted my results.

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Chuck said

I don’t like the wood to metal fit.  

Link does not work for me, Steve.  But, I’m looking at the 1895’s on GI, now! Smile

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Link does not work for me, Steve.  But, I’m looking at the 1895’s on GI, now! Smile

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James – yes, I noticed the link quit working.

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James I have posted my 73 several times in the past.  I shot this gun a couple weeks ago and posted my results.

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Man that is a beauty.  I’m going to try and find the link.

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Chuck – that is just a wonderful M1873 Deluxe.  With that scope, it would be quite the companion piece to the scoped .405 that James is coveting.  What a pair they would make!

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steve004 said
Chuck – that is just a wonderful M1873 Deluxe.  With that scope, it would be quite the companion piece to the scoped .405 that James is coveting.  What a pair they would make!  

Don’t you just know it!

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Yes, the lowly and often neglected M1895.  I like them.  Of course, I like .33 WCF’s and .32 specials too.  

Here is one I find very attractive.  About as attractive as a person could find given the very fancy wood.  It’s an antique, flatside, pistol-grip checkered, shotgun butt, factory letter… all appealing.  However, there are detractors that would keep me away.  Refinished barrel, refinished wood, recut checkering and the Lyman receiver sight doesn’t letter.  But, were the price right (i.e. for me that would have to be a couple thousand below the low end of the estimate), I could see myself enjoying this piece.  

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/81/1043/early-production-winchester-deluxe-model-1895-flatside-rifle

This is one I’m very curious as to where the bidding ends up.  The M1895 isn’t very popular and this one has some problems.  

I also like the 95’s but never had a desire to own a bunch of them – Have had rifles and carbines, both standard and deluxe but never had a flatside. A dealer/collector friend of mine once told me 95’s are hard to sell. I am now down to one 95 – I think it is a nice one – photo attached.

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Burt – WHOA!  That is a screamer.  What a beautiful, rare rifle. And it all letters – even the Lyman receiver sight.  

Your dealer friend’s comment about 95’s being hard to sell is mostly true, but I can’t believe this ’95 of yours would have any difficulty in selling.  What a prize!

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Burt – WHOA!  That is a screamer.  What a beautiful, rare rifle. And it all letters – even the Lyman receiver sight.  

Your dealer friend’s comment about 95’s being hard to sell is mostly true, but I can’t believe this ’95 of yours would have any difficulty in selling.  What a prize!  

SmileAnd to think that I didn’t beat him out of that back in Eagle River!!!!  Beautiful rifle, Burt!  Thanks for showing it.  What kind of rear barrel sight is on it?  You nailed it Steve.  Thanks for the link on the one I was having trouble with.

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Burt – WHOA!  That is a screamer.  What a beautiful, rare rifle. And it all letters – even the Lyman receiver sight.  

Your dealer friend’s comment about 95’s being hard to sell is mostly true, but I can’t believe this ’95 of yours would have any difficulty in selling.  What a prize!  

SmileAnd to think that I didn’t beat him out of that back in Eagle River!!!!  Beautiful rifle, Burt!  Thanks for showing it.  What kind of rear barrel sight is on it?  You nailed it Steve.  Thanks for the link on the one I was having trouble with.

James  

James – the rear sight is the Lyman folding leaf sight – the exact sight is shown on page 581 of the Madis book (blue). It has two leaves which fold down out of the sighting plane when using a peep sight. One notch has a wide vee and the other a flat top with a wide triangle. The Madis book says the sight was most often found on the Model 95. I took a couple of photos of it but we are having email issues here today in the frozen north so cannot send them. 

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James – the rear sight is the Lyman folding leaf sight – the exact sight is shown on page 581 of the Madis book (blue). It has two leaves which fold down out of the sighting plane when using a peep sight. One notch has a wide vee and the other a flat top with a wide triangle. The Madis book says the sight was most often found on the Model 95. I took a couple of photos of it but we are having email issues here today in the frozen north so cannot send them.   

James – here are the sight photos:

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Burt, thank you for clarifying that for me.  I thought that is what it might be, but was not certain.  You do have some great collectible firearms that are a real pleasure to see and discuss.

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