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June 27, 2021 - 6:59 pm
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Hi. I just got old and rusty Winchester rifle and I have no idea of anything.. 

If anyone can help me and tell what the model and caliber is? Also I am probably missing part at the loading port?

Serial number: 113133

Barrel length 24 inch / 60cm

And there is text: pat oct 14 1884

 

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You have a Model 1892, and it is in extremely poor condition. The caliber is marked on the top of the barrel just forward of the ring (behind the rear sight).

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Manufactured 1899 and Art I’d advise You “DON’T SHOOT IT”

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If you’ve got the time to drive it out to Santa Fe, the antique dealers on the Plaza will fight each other to buy it as a “genuine artifact of the Old West.”  Plenty of other interior decorators would love it.

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 There’s animal abuse and there’s gun abuse. This was at one time owned by a gun abuser. T/R

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I believe the old saying, “Rode hard and put away wet”, would apply here.  Wink  RDB

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I suspect this gun was lost and forgotten long before I was born. Quite possibly the person who put it away died without telling anyone where it was. Clarence may be on to something. It may be worth more just like it is. Cleaning it up and getting it into working order may actually hurt the value for some buyers. Even wiping the dust off may be a bad idea. 

 

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Thanks everyone. Didn’t notice the caliber marking, it is 32 WCF. Also found model 1892 marking, it was very hard to see.. 

Gun was never lost, got it from my 75 years old grandma. She said it belong to my grandfather dad (lived 1889-1962) and even his dad (1852-something) has probably used it, nobody has used it in decades. Dad says the same. No idea exactly when or how it got here in Finland. For the last year it was stored in old cow house. I had to clean it little bit because there was probably bird shit etc. Here is couple more pictures for you 😀  I love how it looks. 

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 Clarence may be on to something. It may be worth more just like it is. Cleaning it up and getting it into working order may actually hurt the value for some buyers. Even wiping the dust off may be a bad idea. 

I wasn’t joking in the least–rich Kalifornicators decking out their new, multi-million dollar “ranch house” in NM, AZ, MT, who’d have little interest in the same gun in mint cond., would dearly love to hang such a “genuine Old West artifact” above their $50,000 stone fireplace…esp. if the antique dealer told them it was unfirable! 

Similar thing is happening in the East on a somewhat reduced scale, though here the style is quite different–it’s North Woods hunting-camp chic.  So local antique dealers look for beat-up fishing, hunting, camping eqpt. to sell for big profits to city idiots furnishing their million-dollar week-end “camps.”

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This looks like some of the guns I would come across in my time in the arctic of Canada. I wonder what stories this old 1892 could tell. I love old guns with “patina” . Keep it as it is.

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