Log In
Members
Home
Add Reply
Add Topic
Offline
Huck Riley said
I always see tons of those at every gun show. But again, you have to know what you are looking at. I once thought I’d look for a 94 extractor. Never mind.
Not always. More than once I’ve found something that I didn’t know exactly what it was but after the seller explained what it was I bought it. You just don’t know what you may find if you aren’t looking.
Online
1873man said
At Tulsa getting there on setup day is a must to find the deal and asking if you have something neat under the table. I bought the extra heavy 73 in 22 extra long and a second model 73 in 44 S&W American from under the table at Tulsa. Table holder that don’t really know what to price gun at or have a buyer at home in mind keep it under the table. This gives you a chance to talk him out of it.Bob
Let me amend my earlier statement: Being in the right place, at the right time and with enough money in your pocket.
Bob – I do recall photos you’ve posted of your ’73 .22 extra long extra heavy barreled rifle. A staggeringly rare and unique piece. I know you’ve referenced your ’73 in .44 S&W American but I don’t think I’ve seen photos and the specific details. Is there a past thread where I can find this?
Thanks!
1873man said
At Tulsa getting there on setup day is a must to find the deal and asking if you have something neat under the table. I bought the extra heavy 73 in 22 extra long and a second model 73 in 44 S&W American from under the table at Tulsa. Table holder that don’t really know what to price gun at or have a buyer at home in mind keep it under the table. This gives you a chance to talk him out of it.Bob
At most big National Gun Shows, set up day is when 100’s of knowledgeable dealers and collectors walk the aisle looking for deals. If you go to a show when it’s open to the public, your a retail buyer of a picked over inventory. T/R
TR said
At most big National Gun Shows, set up day is when 100’s of knowledgeable dealers and collectors walk the aisle looking for deals. If you go to a show when it’s open to the public, your a retail buyer of a picked over inventory. T/R
If a guy is in buying mode it really pays to get there during set-up. I know of some guys who purchase tables for that sole purpose. Many consider the show as essentially over after set-up shuts down.
steve004 said
I know of some guys who purchase tables for that sole purpose. Many consider the show as essentially over after set-up shuts down.
They are mostly correct, except for a few late-comers who don’t arrive till Sat. morn. For years I bought tables merely to get a dealer’s card, then, if the show was sold out as the good ones usually were (talking mainly about the ’80s & ’90s, not the present sorry times), was usually able to resell the table to someone looking for one.
Crescent butts are most beautiful. And some of us don’t notice the recoil, having shot so many times with a crescent that the bones and tissues of our shoulders are form-fitted!
I try to purchase crescents only.
FromTheWoods said
Crescent butts are most beautiful. And some of us don’t notice the recoil, having shot so many times with a crescent that the bones and tissues of our shoulders are form-fitted!I try to purchase crescents only.
I too like the crescent butt on a Winchester rifle, because they are the “most beautiful”. T/R
FromTheWoods said
I try to purchase crescents only.
Considering they outnumber SG plates about a hundred to one, that’s not a hard row to hoe.
steve004 said
Bob – I know you’ve referenced your ’73 in .44 S&W American but I don’t think I’ve seen photos and the specific details. Is there a past thread where I can find this?
Thanks!
No, I haven’t put up pictures on that one
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
clarence said
Considering they outnumber SG plates about a hundred to one, that’s not a hard row to hoe.
Yeah. Those odds are far better than in any other endeavors in my life! Thank goodness for Winchesters….
Steve,
I just posted the gun on Whats New.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/whats-new/1873-in-44-sw-american/#p93428
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
steve004 said
Shotgun butt = thing of beauty:
Way over priced!
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
1873man said
Steve,I just posted the gun on Whats New.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/whats-new/1873-in-44-sw-american/#p93428
Bob
Probably a dumb question from a novice, but what’s with all the screws to the rear of the plates?
Huck Riley said
Probably a dumb question from a novice, but what’s with all the screws to the rear of the plates?
It was originally shipped as a carbine.
Bert H. said
Way over priced!
Oh, I know. But if it were fitted with a crescent butt, most here would be drooling over it and consider it a bargain 😉
steve004 said
Oh, I know. But if it were fitted with a crescent butt, most here would be drooling over it and consider it a bargain 😉
deleted my post, wrong thread
Well, it is funny to see the reactions for and against the crescent buttplates. To each his own. Personally, I won’t even consider an early Winchester that does not have a crescent buttplate as far as collecting goes. But that is just me. Furthermore, I shoot these old Winchesters a lot …. thousands of rounds with crescent buttplates and I find the crescent buttplate much more pleasant to shoot that the shotgun buttplate style. The crescent curves around the upper arm just above the bicep, distributing the force of the recoil over a much wider area as shown in the photo below. The shotgun buttplate concentrates the force in a much smaller area. The heavier the recoil, the more important it is to use a crescent buttplate. Bottom Line: The surface of the arm is curved so the buttplate should be curved as well. I am mystified as to why modern guns do not come with a crescent buttplate as standard.
Kirk Durston said
Well, it is funny to see the reactions for and against the crescent buttplates. To each his own. Personally, I won’t even consider an early Winchester that does not have a crescent buttplate as far as collecting goes. But that is just me. Furthermore, I shoot these old Winchesters a lot …. thousands of rounds with crescent buttplates and I find the crescent buttplate much more pleasant to shoot that the shotgun buttplate style. The crescent curves around the upper arm just above the bicep, distributing the force of the recoil over a much wider area as shown in the photo below. The shotgun buttplate concentrates the force in a much smaller area. The heavier the recoil, the more important it is to use a crescent buttplate. Bottom Line: The surface of the arm is curved so the buttplate should be curved as well. I am mystified as to why modern guns do not come with a crescent buttplate as standard.
Wow. Just wow. I am going to add this subject to the list. The, “list” being: be cautious about the subjects of: religion, politics or buttplates when in the company of others. People have very different opinions – hence you don’t know when you will be stepping on a landmine.
Kirk – my experience is the exact opposite of yours. My belief and experience (I’ve shot many of both) is that the crescent buttplate concentrates the recoil in a smaller area of my arm and the shotgun butt compresses the flesh and distributes the recoil over a wider area. Yes, the curve of the crescent butt follows the curve of the arm but in my experience, at the time the recoil hits, that force is not distributed along the full curve but rather just a very small section of it (the center). To support my case of being, “right” 🙂 about this, I would point to your point – that over the years, the trend has been vastly toward “shotgun” style butts vs. crescent butts.
But to each his own. I have no reason to convert others to shotgun butt use. I would happily agree to a truce – you guys buy the crescent butt rifles and leave the shotgun butt rifles (the non-restored ones) to me. 🙂
As long as you remember to do a practiced flip-twist, from sideways to upright, at that last second before firing (with a serious squint to your eye, ala Jimmy Stewart), then the crescent butt works fine for distribution of energy. Just don’t screw up and get that sharp point planted in your shoulder as you fire.
I agree with both of you, and the physics you address both make sense to me. I don’t know who is right. I just know the crescent looks better. And I shoot my 86 in 45-70 a lot and it doesn’t bother me a lick. It does bother a friend of mine after about 100 rounds. But he’s leaner than I am.
It’s true all those elephant hunters use shotgun butts on their artillery. But, well, they are English, and they wear dumb looking helmets instead of cowboy hats, so there’s that.
1 Guest(s)
