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Top is an Eastern Carbine from 1921. # 927896 is a special order carbine, in 32 WS, with the 2/3 magazine, no sling swivel, and the stock with the 4 1/2″ composition buttplate.

Bottom is a 1903 vintage M1894 SRC, in 30WCF, that came from a sheep ranch and has the brand and name on the stock. Carbine is too early to have proofs. It is # 184737. Also came with a scabbard also marked with the brand and name. Wish these guns could talk.   Big Larry

 

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Do many of the non-ring carbines (Eastern) have a shotgun butt?

Here is an interesting 92 SRC with a rifle butt, capped pistol grip and walnut stocks – in 38-40 which I do not see that often.92-SRC-letter.jpgImage Enlarger92-carbine.jpgImage Enlarger

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Burt Humphrey said
Do many of the non-ring carbines (Eastern) have a shotgun butt?

Here is an interesting 92 SRC with a rifle butt, capped pistol grip and walnut stocks – in 38-40 which I do not see that often.92-SRC-letter.jpgImage Enlarger92-carbine.jpgImage Enlarger  

Wow, that is certainly sweet and scarce if not rare. I have a couple Eastern Carbines, one is a standard generic M1894 carbine in 30-30. My other one has the fluted stock and the M55 type buttplate. Burt, that is one very, very, nice carbine. Thanks for sharing.  Big Larry

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If you like scarce 92’s, here is a sweetie in 25-20. I don’t get to gun shows all the time like you guys in the lower 48 but when I do I rarely see a checkered 92, rifle or carbine – especially with condition.92-deluxe.jpgImage Enlargerletter-92-Deluxe.jpgImage Enlarger

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If you like scarce 92’s, here is a sweetie in 25-20. I don’t get to gun shows all the time like you guys in the lower 48 but when I do I rarely see a checkered 92, rifle or carbine – especially with condition.92-deluxe.jpgImage Enlargerletter-92-Deluxe.jpgImage Enlarger  

That 92 is sweat allright. if its not to rude to ask, what $ would this go for in the US.

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If you like scarce 92’s, here is a sweetie in 25-20. I don’t get to gun shows all the time like you guys in the lower 48 but when I do I rarely see a checkered 92, rifle or carbine – especially with condition.92-deluxe.jpgImage Enlargerletter-92-Deluxe.jpgImage Enlarger  

Funny that there is no mention of the fancy wood in the letter.   Big Larry

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Tony – I don’t follow gun prices that close so I really don’t know. With all due respect, unless a buyer and seller are discussing a gun for sale it really doesn’t matter and the little 92 is not for sale. I think too many put too much emphasis on what they are worth – buy some Apple stock, it just keeps getting higher. A couple of weeks ago I was commenting in this forum about a model 55 and said collectors should put a good one away while they can and do it because they like them, not because it might make some money down the road. I really believe that and over time the value will take care of itself. Good guns, one’s which have condition and are correct, have always been expensive and will always increase in value the most. Some in this forum have commented lately that the Winchester market is flat or has dropped, If that is true, then there are buying opportunities. There always has  and always will be a market for Winchester’s with condition – if they are on the rare side, even better. Over 40 years ago my old friend Tommy Rholes gave me some good advice when he said “if you have $10,000 to spend, buy the best gun you can find for $10,000 – don’t go buy 10 thousand dollar guns”. Recently, Bert Hartman made a comment about how fake and redone guns were causing problems for us collectors. He is absolutely right and it is astounding how many are putting away expensive guns that are just not right! There has been extensive discussion about a Model 73 just this week – I think the buyer put it away and thinks it is absolutely correct because as many on here said, he did not do his homework. You may not have seen some photos I posted recently of a deluxe model 55, serial #5 (middle gun in the attached photo). Now that is a rare one and I have had several inquiries about selling it. I don’t know what it is worth but I don’t need the money and I would miss it if it was gone so it is not for sale. I am getting old and have sold some guns over the last few years – I have seller’s remorse over every one of them because I just miss them.94-family.jpgImage Enlarger

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Big Larry;

I think it is pretty common for no mention of the wood on guns with checkering. Here are some examples of letters on other models:

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Most of the records just note checkered stock – the Model 95 notes fancy checkered stock.

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Tony – I don’t follow gun prices that close so I really don’t know. With all due respect, unless a buyer and seller are discussing a gun for sale it really doesn’t matter and the little 92 is not for sale. I think too many put too much emphasis on what they are worth – buy some Apple stock, it just keeps getting higher. A couple of weeks ago I was commenting in this forum about a model 55 and said collectors should put a good one away while they can and do it because they like them, not because it might make some money down the road. I really believe that and over time the value will take care of itself. Good guns, one’s which have condition and are correct, have always been expensive and will always increase in value the most. Some in this forum have commented lately that the Winchester market is flat or has dropped, If that is true, then there are buying opportunities. There always has  and always will be a market for Winchester’s with condition – if they are on the rare side, even better. Over 40 years ago my old friend Tommy Rholes gave me some good advice when he said “if you have $10,000 to spend, buy the best gun you can find for $10,000 – don’t go buy 10 thousand dollar guns”. Recently, Bert Hartman made a comment about how fake and redone guns were causing problems for us collectors. He is absolutely right and it is astounding how many are putting away expensive guns that are just not right! There has been extensive discussion about a Model 73 just this week – I think the buyer put it away and thinks it is absolutely correct because as many on here said, he did not do his homework. You may not have seen some photos I posted recently of a deluxe model 55, serial #5 (middle gun in the attached photo). Now that is a rare one and I have had several inquiries about selling it. I don’t know what it is worth but I don’t need the money and I would miss it if it was gone so it is not for sale. I am getting old and have sold some guns over the last few years – I have seller’s remorse over every one of them because I just miss them.94-family.jpgImage Enlarger  

Thanks Burt. The 73 1 of 1000 I started the thread as a friend was keen to get more info on, intending to bid, but with guidance of this forum, withheld his bid.

Yes the fakers are even touching down out hear, I enquired on a 64 dear rifle advertised out hear, fake box.

Fortunately touched up guns dont pop up that much unless it has been purchased outside the country.

I think that is why collectors are showing interrest in good Australian winchesters that have been hear forever, they are truly origional guns.

Rockisland recently flew out hear to take a 1 of 1000 win 76 back for auction.

That gun was in Bob Stag of Melbourne collection for 50yrs and traced back through family to 1900 .

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Burt,

You have some fine looking Winchesters.  Thanks for sharing the pictures with us.  Great advice also about buying the best you can afford.

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Big Larry;

I think it is pretty common for no mention of the wood on guns with checkering. Here are some examples of letters on other models:

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Most of the records just note checkered stock – the Model 95 notes fancy checkered stock.  

Thank you for that info.  Big Larry

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That deluxe Model 55 is an absolute beauty. Thanks for sharing.

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