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https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4090/1030/winchester-deluxe-model-1886-takedown-.50-express-rifle

 

It sure trips my trigger – a 24 inch 1/2 octagon barrel, takedown, pistol grip, deluxe woods, swivels (letter) and on and on.  Wow. Very pleasing condition too.  Wow.  

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Looks like fun. Now that RIA is holding their auctions in my back yard I should probably wander down there and watch the show.

 

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Mike, fill a couple suitcases with Ben Franklins and buy it. 

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Looks like fun. Now that RIA is holding their auctions in my back yard I should probably wander down there and watch the show.

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Looks like fun. Now that RIA is holding their auctions in my back yard I should probably wander down there and watch the show.

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 Yes you should! We could use an “inside” manWink

  

Maybe I can talk Kevin into a tour of his new digs. Won’t need a couple suitcases for all my Benjamin’s, Chuck. A small envelope will suffice.

 

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Mike, I bet this gun sells way over the high estimate.

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Mike, I bet this gun sells way over the high estimate.

  

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 I think your right, he’s the new John Wayne. His NRA time makes his standing on the gun issue clear to me. That’s why I bought one of his 76’s several years ago. He’s one of the few actors I respect. T/R

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TR, Tom used to come to the Vegas shows quite frequently and almost always with the NRA big wigs.  Haven’t seen him there the last couple shows.  Had the opportunity to talk with him a few times after the fans quit bothering him.  I have seen a lot of his guns sell and they always bring big money.  Little John sold some of the Magnum and movie guns.  Roger did a lot for him and Walt and I helped some.  He brought the actor that plays his youngest son on Blue Bloods a couple times.  So we got to chat with him too.  I got to hold one of the Quigley guns and Phil Schreier took a picture of me holding it.  Phil never emailed me the picture.  I need to bug him the next time I see him.  Phil did give me a picture he took of Tom when he visited Tom’s house.  I need to dig that one out.

This will be interesting to watch. 

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 Chuck,

 You do need to get the picture of you holding the Quigley gun. Was it the same one that’s for sale? If you change your name to Chuck Quigley and I’d buy an autographed picture.

 All kidding aside he adds value to any gun coming out of his collection. T/R

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TR, I have no idea which gun it was.  Usually Tom does not let people take pictures with him at gun shows but this time a young man in a wheel chair did get his picture taken with Tom.  The Quigley gun was at the NRA table next to me.  That is how I got to handle it.  Phil made me put some white gloves on before I could touch it.  I would like to get the picture but may never.  Any thing that I might autograph will definitely go down in value.

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Mike, I bet this gun sells way over the high estimate.

  

You were sure right about this – auction estimate $50,000 to $70,000 and it sold for $105,750.  

The Quigley “Down Under” sold for the identical price – $105,750 – but did not meet the high end of the auction estimate (estimate was $85,000 to $130,000).  

(Of the two, I’d take the ’86).

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Thanks for the update Steve.  I don’t know anything about either gun but we all know the Quigley rifle is a modern reproduction.  I forget how many were made for the movie but I’d like to say 3 not including an aluminum one that got thrown around.

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Thanks for the update Steve.  I don’t know anything about either gun but we all know the Quigley rifle is a modern reproduction.  I forget how many were made for the movie but I’d like to say 3 not including an aluminum one that got thrown around.

  

Yeah…. the ’86 wasn’t a reproduction Wink

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 Tom Selleck’s ownership adds value to the gun whether it’s a movie prop or a 1901 Winchester. These two guns are proof. T/R

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 Tom Selleck’s ownership adds value to the gun whether it’s a movie prop or a 1901 Winchester. These two guns are proof. T/R

  

TR – I get it and that has always been the case but it sure seems to be a lot of money for a blued frame deluxe 86, even if it is 50 caliber and even with the Sellick provenance. 

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Wish I had made it to this auction, some pretty interesting stuff. I think RIA will continue to sell Tom Selleck’s guns. Probably net more if they don’t dump them all at once. I hear he’s been collecting for awhile and unlike most of us he probably didn’t have to sell any to finance acquisitions. Going to be nice to have RIA in my back yard, looking forward to checking the new place out.

 

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 Tom Selleck’s ownership adds value to the gun whether it’s a movie prop or a 1901 Winchester. These two guns are proof. T/R

  

TR – I get it and that has always been the case but it sure seems to be a lot of money for a blued frame deluxe 86, even if it is 50 caliber and even with the Sellick provenance. 

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IMHO, Tom Selleck’s rifle sold for considerably worth.

It’s the “mystique” of Rock Island Auction.  Some how, they get insensible folks to bid far more on firearms than comparable venues and they are a very deep pocket crowd.

If a firearm letters to a renowned individual, or there’s iron clad proof that a firearm belonged to a renowned individual originally, or was used by a historical figure when a firearm was new or during a period of use when it was relevant—that adds value.  That means excellent, documented proof.  No room for hypotheses such as “attributed to”, etc.  I know this does not apply to this particular rifle, but I’m leading up to a point.  Previous ownership by Tom Selleck adds ZERO additional value to this rifle.  He is just a caretaker along the way, just like you and I.  The only exception to this would be if a firearm purchased by someone well after production was used in a significant historic event, such as a presidential assassination, or if a historical firearm played a prominent role in a current movie, this then perhaps becoming appealing to a fan of that particular movie.

FWIW, I did lend a Smith & Wesson No 2 Army revolver to the producer of this documentary and received a $100 royalty for my revolver’s cameo role in this documentary.  

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I am not a player in this segment of the market but I suspect Selleck was (and maybe still is) a prolific collector and like any other prolific collector his guns may bring a bit more than an item from a smaller collection. His name certainly adds to RIA’s marketing efforts and they do a great job of marketing. Their photos are eye-catching and the descriptions help build excitement. That’s why these big auction houses are able to charge the commissions they do, sellers know they will work hard and spend a lot of money to reach buyers and get top dollar for their items. Big auction houses put a lot of time and money into supporting and attending the big collector shows to promote their auctions and solicit consignments. They’re good folks and I enjoy seeing the eye candy they bring to shows.

 

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Mike, I bet this gun sells way over the high estimate.

  

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 I think your right, he’s the new John Wayne. His NRA time makes his standing on the gun issue clear to me. That’s why I bought one of his 76’s several years ago. He’s one of the few actors I respect. T/R

  

 Tom Selleck was the face of the NRA when it was not politically correct to wear a NRA hat. Gun collectors remember that, some of them have seen him at the big gun shows and respect him for his help. Two of his movies were based on collectable firearms, in both cases he spent time on camera talking about the gun.

 His gun’s are being sold by himself now when he is popular. My question is, what will they be worth when he is gone and the new owner goes to sell? Will it be like Jimmy Stewart and the 1 of 1000’s in the movie, maybe not, he had Universal Interntional and Winchester promoting the guns. I’m guessing they will bring a premium as long as his movies are watched. T/R 

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mrcvs said

Burt Humphrey said

TR said

 Tom Selleck’s ownership adds value to the gun whether it’s a movie prop or a 1901 Winchester. These two guns are proof. T/R

  

TR – I get it and that has always been the case but it sure seems to be a lot of money for a blued frame deluxe 86, even if it is 50 caliber and even with the Sellick provenance. 

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IMHO, Tom Selleck’s rifle sold for considerably worth.

It’s the “mystique” of Rock Island Auction.  Some how, they get insensible folks to bid far more on firearms than comparable venues and they are a very deep pocket crowd.

If a firearm letters to a renowned individual, or there’s iron clad proof that a firearm belonged to a renowned individual originally, or was used by a historical figure when a firearm was new or during a period of use when it was relevant—that adds value.  That means excellent, documented proof.  No room for hypotheses such as “attributed to”, etc.  I know this does not apply to this particular rifle, but I’m leading up to a point.  Previous ownership by Tom Selleck adds ZERO additional value to this rifle.  He is just a caretaker along the way, just like you and I.  The only exception to this would be if a firearm purchased by someone well after production was used in a significant historic event, such as a presidential assassination, or if a historical firearm played a prominent role in a current movie, this then perhaps becoming appealing to a fan of that particular movie.

FWIW, I did lend a Smith & Wesson No 2 Army revolver to the producer of this documentary and received a $100 royalty for my revolver’s cameo role in this documentary.  

https://www.muybridgethemovie.com/thefilm/

  

It might be semantics, but if you define the, “worth” of a gun as what others are willing to pay for it, then I am confident that Tom’s Selleck’s ownership of a gun adds to it’s “worth”.  I’m confident that many of those who bid on his rifles, bid more, because of his name attached to those guns.  It is however, a moment in time.  It may well be that 20 years from now, Tom’s previous ownership will not have an impact on what others will be willing to pay.  

One aspect of why buying a gun that was in his collection appeals to me – he collected quality guns.  For example, I can think of other high dollar/high profile collections (e.g. Wes Adams) where more than one questionable piece made its way in.  My impression is that is not the case with the pieces Tom has put up for sale.

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