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I think the Rifleman Shows I watched as a kid were part of the conspiracy to addict me to the Model 1892. Lucas was quite innovative to be using one 10 years prior to its introduction , and he could win any B/R Match , shooting from the hip. For nostalgic reasons I still enjoy the show. There was an episode today where an English ‘Dandy’ came over to challenge Lucas with his latest invention , a new-fangled pump action that turned out to be a Colt Lightning Rifle. He was quite good with it too, but not quite as good as Lucas. There was also an episode with Sammy Davis Jr as a fancy trick shooting Pistolero. Unfortunately for Sammy , he got plugged by Lucas , and he wasnt even tap-dancing and singing at the time.
With History lessons like these I was doomed
I understand your problem. At least your addiction is one that others can envy. Weighs them down with one of the Seven Deadly Sins, and you come out doomed to wear a halo! (Well, some of us would see it that way.)
Those old shows do mold us. I used to strap on my sixshooter and stand ready to draw whenever Lucas met a mean hombre in the street. If you were to have asked me back then who won the draw, I’d have said that for certain I did. I guess I missed my calling by not becoming a quick-draw artist for a traveling show
. Likely because of the old Western shows, I did learn to make sticks, fir cones, and shotgun empties dance.
Now that you’ve brought up the memories, I have an itch to hitch a gun and put on a “Rifleman” show. At seeing me ready to draw, I believe my wife would consider that the last straw and call the fellas in the little white coats.
I happened to watch ” The Searchers” the other day and it took place in 1868 and almost everyone, Indians, Texas rangers and others where all using 1892 Winchesters.
Paul
Lucas wasnt the only innovator. I noticed in the recent ‘Hatfields and McCoys’ that they were using 1892’s in the Civil War era , now thats early. It’s just too cool a cowboy gun to not use . So I guess that gives it ‘Poetic licence’ and 99% of watchers wouldnt know.
FTW i know what you mean . I have always found Women to have a different conceptual interpretation of History (and other matters too). They might not understand the importance of historically significant ‘Re-enactments’
A very interesting editing/cutting error in “The Searchers” appears in the scene where the Indians cross a river to attack the Texas Rangers. Ethan (John Wayne) takes several shots at the Indians in the river. The weapon he uses alternates several times between an 1892 rifle and an 1892 carbine, though it is supposed to be the same weapon as there are no scenes showing he switched rifles.
"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Hollywood is the main reason why there is a shortage of M1892 .44 Winchesters. Even one of the Riflemans carbines was a El Tigre. Great for using the 5 in 1 blanks, and a lever gun to associate it with cowboys. The Rifleman was set in 1870’s yet he sported a M1892. John Wayne was the 1st to have a large loop lever carbine. Check out Winchester 1 of 1000 with Jimmy Stewart. He actually used a real nice M1873 in the movie. Big Larry
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In the Jimmie Stewart movie, it was actually Herp Parsons (a trick shooter for Winchester), that was making all of the shots with his trusty Model 71 in 348 WCF.
Bert
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One of my favorite movie errors is in Dances with Wolves when Costner is shooting the buffalo with the Henry–aside from being the wrong gun for the application, all the while he is firing at these buffalo his Henry doesnt have any cartridges in the magazine tube, the spring lever is against the receiver.
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I remember reading something in Guns & Ammo or maybe American Rifleman a long time ago about the firearms in the John Milius mini-series Rough Riders. I will have to watch it again someday. Sam Pekinpah’s Ride The High Country has a nice selection of rifles you don’t always see in films, although there could have been one 1892 in that one also.
Brad
Rifleman episodes Tomorrow morn (AMC) early I think I will set my alarm. Will I have a 92 in my lap ? You bet ya. I can’t help myself I now know what they mean by second childhood
Phil
Alan Ladd movie Saskatchewan today. 1876 and all the guns were M92’s and there were a ton of them shown. Mostly all beaters. Big Larry
Another one I get a kick out of is “Wanted, dead or alive” Another 92 but his ammo belt has cartridges from some much larger caliber rifle. That is why you never see him reload from that belt. For a wide variety of guns, Death Hunt with Charles Bronson has a mixed bag of guns.
Wincacher said
A very interesting editing/cutting error in “The Searchers” appears in the scene where the Indians cross a river to attack the Texas Rangers. Ethan (John Wayne) takes several shots at the Indians in the river. The weapon he uses alternates several times between an 1892 rifle and an 1892 carbine, though it is supposed to be the same weapon as there are no scenes showing he switched rifles.
There are even more errors throughout the film “The Searchers’ including scenes where John Wayne is using a carbine in one shot and in the next shot he is using a Model 18923 short rifle. Still love the film, though.
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