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The “Marshfield Find”: Winchester 1886 No 2062
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August 10, 2024 - 2:28 am
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Hi everyone, It was my families gun, i bet the attic got hot and cold, the gun was in the scabbard, my grandparents had no idea what was in the crate. We opened it once in 74 ,and then sent it to be appraised. We had to whine a bit for my grand parents to get it back. They could give a rats ass about some old gun, they would not have opened it again. It just sat in dads closet until this year. I am pretty sure no one even loaded the gun.  I wondered every once in a while if it should have been oiled  er something, but I know jack doodle about gun ownership.  Funny to read the comments , because you guys care and know a lot about history and Winchesters ( super cool) , I am not trying to drum up excitement or rack up sales, but that description is accurate to my knowledge. I will be going to Texas, cuz I am having fun with the whole auction thing. If ya go  look for me on Friday . Fred about 60ish . 

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Fred, 

Thanks for the extra input!

We will look for you in TX.

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Looks like I’ll be headed for Bedford next week. The folks in the video seem pretty convinced, they know how unlikely a find like this should be. I’m looking forward to seeing the place, no excuse for not making the short trip to see some very exceptional items.

 

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TXGunNut said
Looks like I’ll be headed for Bedford next week. The folks in the video seem pretty convinced, they know how unlikely a find like this should be. I’m looking forward to seeing the place, no excuse for not making the short trip to see some very exceptional items.

 

Mike

  

I’ll take a Thursday off one of these days to go see, just won’t be this one unfortunately….enjoy!

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The think I believe that preserved this rifle was the fact that it was basically sealed in the box.  That eliminated the airflow around the gun and leather.  It would also slow the temperature changes down a bit.  We do not know how other guns from this period that survived were stored over the years but we do know some have survived in very close to new condition. 

THIS ALL STARTED WITH JUST ONE GUN!

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Missed inspection day to attend to pressing business and meet with a major subcontractor. Have a freight shipment coming tomorrow, Saturday morning will have to break down that shipment in my warehouse. I sure would like to see this rifle but it’s not looking good. Anybody here make inspection day?

 

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Here you go! Wow.

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Jeremy P said
Here you go! Wow.

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So much for what I thought.  <Sigh>

And then there’s the buyer’s premium, sales tax, and shipping on top of that.

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Wow is right.  I’ll bet Clarence will suggest to us that a Fat Cat bought it Wink

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mrcvs said So much for what I thought.  And then there’s the buyer’s premium, sales tax, and shipping on top of that. 

I’m surprised that you or anyone else would be surprised.  After that P.T. Barnum, pull-out-all-the-stops, presentation??? 

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clarence said

mrcvs said So much for what I thought.  And then there’s the buyer’s premium, sales tax, and shipping on top of that. 

I’m surprised that you or anyone else would be surprised.  After that P.T. Barnum, pull-out-all-the-stops, presentation??? 

  

I’m convinced the gun is probably everything they said it was, minus the hype. Even a gun stashed away in near new condition and somehow unaffected by the elements pushes the boundaries of my feeble mind when I see the hammer price. Somebody bought a really great story. 

 

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clarence said

mrcvs said So much for what I thought.  And then there’s the buyer’s premium, sales tax, and shipping on top of that. 

I’m surprised that you or anyone else would be surprised.  After that P.T. Barnum, pull-out-all-the-stops, presentation???   

I’m not surprised, but sometimes folks need to come to their senses.

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mrcvs said

I’m not surprised, but sometimes folks need to come to their senses. 

Not millionaires.

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Did I count the zeroes of the hammer price rightly ???

If so, I have built on foundations of shifting sand and dwelt among false shows. 

Or somebody has. 

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Zebulon said
Did I count the zeroes of the hammer price rightly ???

If so, I have built on foundations of shifting sand and dwelt among false shows. 

Or somebody has. 

  

I would have been more comfortable with the decimal point one position to the left. Lesson to be learned is never underestimate the value of a good story. I’m obviously doing it wrong. Any of my offerings that require a story are very hard to sell, even when the story is likely true!

 

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I’m too comfortable to go pull out my research books but did Winchester lacquer their CC’d guns in 86?  Also, the wood just doesn’t look right to me.  Too light.  As to the ammo?  Why would the boxes show so much wear and staining?  “Pulled the bullets and dumped the Black Powder” out of safety.  NO knowledge appraiser would have done that unless it was to cover up the obvious fact they were reloads.  Back to the wood, I would expect to see some shrinkage.

I recently sold an 86 that I asked about here.  Was a fantastic restoration and honesty would have been a more believable find.  I made it known in the ad.

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