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The average 1866
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Chuck
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April 11, 2026 - 1:16 am
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Thanks Bob.  I know I have a picture of a bunch of them in the same condition but can’t find it.

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Here a couple bolt face pictures of a factory center fire 1866 IMG_1483.jpegIMG_1472.jpegIMG_1476.jpegIMG_1477.jpegIMG_1474.jpegIMG_1475.jpegIMG_1479.jpeg

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James – 

Very nice looking carbine.  And thanks for the visual example – very helpful.

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James Fenderson said
Here a couple bolt face pictures of a factory center fire 1866
  

This appears to be a very nice example.  Can you provide close up shots of both sides of the receiver as well?

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James Fenderson said
Here a couple bolt face pictures of a factory center fire 1866
  

The second picture of the bolt face is similar to the pic I sent.  It takes care of the excessive head space.  The Factory made several different CF’s according to Madis.  The Winchester Book 1 of 1000, 1885 version on page 100 he shows some pictures and describes the variations. 

But here is another thing to think about.  Some of the very earliest 1866’s might have been center fire too.  Read the section on the 1866 in Herbert Houze’s book, The Winchester 1876 Centennial Rifle.  Especially page 33.  

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