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April 30, 2023
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TXGunNut said
One interesting observation about the write-up. Story is that one hundred barrels were tested, best barrel was set aside. Ten lots of barrels were tested, the ten best barrels were tested, best became part of a “One of One Thousand”. The other nine barrels were used to build “One of One Hundred” rifles. Why do we not have nine “One of One Hundred” rifles for every ” One of One Thousand”?
Mike
This is what I’ve always wondered too! In for a penny, in for a pound I guess if you were buying an upgraded rifle back in the day.
May 23, 2009
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TXGunNut said
One interesting observation about the write-up. Story is that one hundred barrels were tested, best barrel was set aside. Ten lots of barrels were tested, the ten best barrels were tested, best became part of a “One of One Thousand”. The other nine barrels were used to build “One of One Hundred” rifles. Why do we not have nine “One of One Hundred” rifles for every ” One of One Thousand”?
Mike
All of that language spurs off of the original 1875 Advertisement Flyer for the 1 of 1000. It was just a Advertisement Ploy, they never tested them or serialized them as such.
The barrels should have read 1 of 100 for the 1of1,000 and 1 of 10 for the 1of100. For the Model 76 less than 60 1of1000s were made and less than 10 1of100s were made.
oldcrankyyankee said
Well if you to spend your money and for, what $4.00 more, I guess go for the gust and get the 1 of 1000. Guess that’s why there are less 1 of 100,s.
BTW, while we are on the subject of 1of 1000’s, they had all these long range sight options and a lot of hoopla about they’re unheard of accuracy right. Has anyone actually ever tried to shoot a 44 or 38 wcf 1000 yard’s? I would love to see that.
The 1,000 yards comes from the period Creedmoor Matches held at the Creedmoor Range in New York and its max range was 1,000 yards. And international teams of guys held competition there every year for a long time.
I’ve only ever made steel clang, but don’t recall how far. The Matthew Quigley shoot in Montana has a life-sized Buffalo Steel target at 805 yards for you to hit. Most guys shoot something in 45 Gov. or close to it. There are guys that shoot .44 & .38 caliber bullets, but in Montana they want a heavier grain bullet to cut through the wind. My dad and brother made up some special 550 grain 45 Gov rounds for the shoot. There was a guy that for years shot and I do believe won it while shooting a rifle chambered in 22Long Rifle. If you look in the 1878 Winchester Catalog a Capt. J.E. Stetson won a medal at 200 yards while standing using a Winchester. Along with winning another shoot with the highest scores for the “Running Deer” target at 100 yards. So I imagine most shooting competitions of the time period were in this range.
Most people nowadays can’t shoot, especially at a running target.
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Maverick
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November 7, 2015
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One lesson learned by working up a load and shooting the Whittington Center white buffalo at 1123 yards is that the black powder cartridge rifles stabilize the heavy lead bullets for a lot further than most folks realize. With a proper rifle, sight and ammunition it’s not really all that difficult. Shooting it with a 38 or 44 WCF would be an interesting adventure.
Mike
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