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I recently found this 1918 (if my book is correct) Model 92 .44 WCF in a pawn shop. The owner is really into metal detector equipment so long story short I traded an older metal detector and $150 for it. I got it home disassembled it and gave it a good cleaning/oiling, the parts all look good but the bore is pretty dark with some pitting, I knew the condition before buying so no surprises anywhere. I’m guessing it has been re-blued sometime during it’s life, it has a chip by the butt plate among other things so definitely not a pristine rifle but everything functions good, cycles good, is fun to shoot, and I think it deserves more than sitting in a corner of a pawn shop. I’m not sure if the marking on the front left side of the receiver means something?

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Hello Doug,

Model 1892 s/n 863126 was manufactured in April 1919.  The entire gun has been refinished, and the sling studs are aftermarket additions. If it has a decent bore and shoots good, you did well on the deal for it.

The marking on the receiver frame was not factory applied, but it has been seen before.  I believe that Mike Carrick wrote a brief article about that marking (refer to the Summer 2023 Winchester Collector magazine, pg. 49) – Summer 2023 (winchestercollector.org)

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Hello Doug,

Model 1892 s/n 863126 was manufactured in April 1919.  The entire gun has been refinished, and the sling studs are aftermarket additions. If it has a decent bore and shoots good, you did well on the deal for it.

The marking on the receiver frame was not factory applied, but it has been seen before.  I believe that Mike Carrick wrote a brief article about that marking (refer to the Summer 2023 Winchester Collector magazine, pg. 49) – Summer 2023 (winchestercollector.org)

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Thanks for the info Bert, I will check out the article!

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Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp?

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Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp?

Thanks

Michael

  

Thanks for the speedy reply, yes there are 2 markings on the lower tang. The first one, closest to the trigger is stamped Century Arms INC , the second one is more difficult to make out and some characters look partially stamped but appears to be ST M_RANS WT, I will also upload some photosIMG_0321.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0323.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0322.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0324.jpgImage Enlarger

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twobit said

Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp

Thanks

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Thanks for the speedy reply, yes there are 2 markings on the lower tang. The first one, closest to the trigger is stamped Century Arms INC , the second one is more difficult to make out and some characters look partially stamped but appears to be ST M_RANS WT, I will also upload some photosIMG_0321.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0323.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0322.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0324.jpgImage Enlarger

  

Thanks so much.  That is in fact Century Arms, located in St Albans, Vermont.  I have reached out to them in the past trying to get any additional info regarding when and how many of these rifle were imported back to the US but no luck so far.

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twobit said

Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp

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Michael  

Thanks for the speedy reply, yes there are 2 markings on the lower tang. The first one, closest to the trigger is stamped Century Arms INC , the second one is more difficult to make out and some characters look partially stamped but appears to be ST M_RANS WT, I will also upload some photosIMG_0321.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0323.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0322.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0324.jpgImage Enlarger

  

Thanks so much.  That is in fact Century Arms, located in St Albans, Vermont.  I have reached out to them in the past trying to get any additional info regarding when and how many of these rifle were imported back to the US but no luck so far.

Michael

  

You’re welcome, hopefully they give you some info it would be interesting to know the numbers.

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twobit said

Wisota said

twobit said

Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp

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Thanks for the speedy reply, yes there are 2 markings on the lower tang. The first one, closest to the trigger is stamped Century Arms INC , the second one is more difficult to make out and some characters look partially stamped but appears to be ST M_RANS WT, I will also upload some photosIMG_0321.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0323.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0322.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0324.jpgImage Enlarger  

Thanks so much.  That is in fact Century Arms, located in St Albans, Vermont.  I have reached out to them in the past trying to get any additional info regarding when and how many of these rifle were imported back to the US but no luck so far.

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You’re welcome, hopefully they give you some info it would be interesting to know the numbers.

Doug

  

Not just the total number but also when the importation took place.  The second most common importer is marked HEGE and have German proof marks on them.  These also include a date stamp and appear to have occurred during the middle of 1972.  So, if a 25 year old employee was working for them in 1972 he would now be 77 years old.  There shouldn’t be any problem tacking this tuff down.  It’s in a file cabinet right down the hallway!!  Laugh

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twobit said

Wisota said

twobit said

Wisota said

twobit said

Hello Doug,

Thanks for reaching out via email regarding your “Pine Tree” marked 1892 SRC.   I di in fact record these rifles as part of my overall Model 1892 research survey that I am conducting.  That effort has just over 20,000 individual rifles entered into it of which I have identified 94 identical rifles to yours.  Can you please look at the lower tang of the receiver where it contacts the lever and see if it is marked with an import companies stamp

Thanks

Michael  

Thanks for the speedy reply, yes there are 2 markings on the lower tang. The first one, closest to the trigger is stamped Century Arms INC , the second one is more difficult to make out and some characters look partially stamped but appears to be ST M_RANS WT, I will also upload some photosIMG_0321.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0323.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0322.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0324.jpgImage Enlarger  

Thanks so much.  That is in fact Century Arms, located in St Albans, Vermont.  I have reached out to them in the past trying to get any additional info regarding when and how many of these rifle were imported back to the US but no luck so far.

Michael

You’re welcome, hopefully they give you some info it would be interesting to know the numbers.

Doug

  

Not just the total number but also when the importation took place.  The second most common importer is marked HEGE and have German proof marks on them.  These also include a date stamp and appear to have occurred during the middle of 1972.  So, if a 25 year old employee was working for them in 1972 he would now be 77 years old.  There shouldn’t be any problem tacking this tuff down.  It’s in a file cabinet right down the hallway!!  Laugh

Michael

  

I just stumbled on to a thread, “Winchester 1892 Imported by Century Arms” and read you’re post where you told what you’ve learned about these rifles, very interesting! Thank you for all the work and all the info!

Doug

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You mentioned the bore doesn’t look so good, but remember, that doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t shoot good – particularly when jacketed bullets are tried.

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Michael, hope you can find out about these.  It is quite common for Military rifles to have import stamps.  Many guns were left overseas and later returned back to the US.  I think this process started in 1968?

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Michael, hope you can find out about these.  It is quite common for Military rifles to have import stamps.  Many guns were left overseas and later returned back to the US.  I think this process started in 1968?

  

Yes, the GCA of 1968 was the culprit.

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