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Hello experts!

So I have the oppertunity to get my hands on a year 1914 Winchester 1894. Where I live, in Sweden, these guns are not that common and especially the pre 64 ones. This is actually the first pre 64 i’ve ever seen for sale and its priced about twice that what post 64 ones usually go for.
I checked it out today and I thought it was in decent condition …except the bore, which was substantially pitted. See attached images. 

Im thinking that I should regrettably pass on this one based on the bore even though this might be the only pre 64 I’ll ever come across in years and go for a newer instead. Do you think my reasoning is sound or is it not as bad as I think it is?

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I would be inclined to try cleaning (scrubbing) the bore to determine how much of what you are seeing is simply old powder crud that has not been cleaned out of the bore.  I suspect that it might be in better condition than it appears.

What is the serial number on that old Model 1894 SRC?

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Do you plan to shoot it?  Sometimes these guns with pitted bores don’t shoot bad at all – as long as jacketed bullets are used.

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From the closeup pictures the rifling looks quite sharp as to worn out from shooting so its just a rust issue which will clean up a little. Shooting jacketed bullets will help clean it up as well. When you look down the bore, is it all pitted all the way down?

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Bore on this gun looks GOOD compared to that of a SS I have, yet with jacketed bullets it averages 2″ at 100yds.  But you should use the bore condition to argue for a better price, if possible.

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Steve – Yes, for shooting range and some hunting. 
Bert – S/N is 743487
Bob – Yes, the series of borescope pictures are taken across the whole lenght of the bore

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Bore camera pics are pretty scary, I’m sure the folks who sell barrels love them! I can clearly see the edges of the lands and that’s what it takes to spin a bullet. As pointed out above it looks quite good, willing to bet a good cleaning would prove me out. Could be useful as a bargaining point.

 

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Really comes down to the price and how much you want the gun.  You would be surprised how well some pitted bores will shoot.  You just need rifling.

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Swechester said
Steve – Yes, for shooting range and some hunting. 

Bert – S/N is 743487

Bob – Yes, the series of borescope pictures are taken across the whole lenght of the bore

  

By chance does that Model 1894 SRC have a “DCP” proof mark stamp on the top of the barrel (see the attached pictures)?

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It does not, what does that marking stand for? ..speaking of markings, it does have “60” infront of the trigger, what is that? 

This all sounds encouraging, I’ll go check it out again, clean it and try shooting it to make a more thorough assessment on the condition of the barrel.Smile

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“DCP”…..Dominion of Canada Proof

60 in front of the trigger…..Inspector’s Stamp

Good deal on deciding to buy the gun. Don’t get too aggressive trying to clean the bore, one can do more damage than good. I’d just run a patch or two with some CLP thru the barrel, let it sit overnight, run another dry patch thru and then just go shoot the gun. 

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I had a 7mm Mauser M93 with worse looking bore due to corrosive ammo and it shot great! Take a chance.

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 I have seen many rifles in general and .30-30 rifles in particular ,that have shot quite well with rough bores.Smile

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