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Hey guys. Attached is a picture of my c.1926 1886 Deluxe Lightweight Takedown in .33WCF. It has been drilled and tapped for a sight on the right side of the receiver and there is evidence of something being there at some point. Any ideas of what would have been period correct?

The existing rear sight is a Lyman No.6 combination sight and the front is blade sight (I think missing the brass insert?) stamped Lyman as well.

Any insight is appreciated.

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Steve

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I have a Deluxe 1886 Winchester that was fitted with a sight, just like yours was.  Mine dates from 1903, and has a Western receiver sight on it, and these are 1909 or later in production.  This, or a Redfield sight (Western became Redfield) would be appropriate; on mine, it was clearly later.  On yours, if it is from 1925 (serial number, please), it could be contemporary to when your firearm was produced, although I seriously doubt any were factory installed.

In time, I will post photos of mine, but it will be several months from now.

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https://www.redfield.com/redfield-story/

I learned earlier today that the value of a firearm with a receiver sight that is not factory original cuts the value to 50%, which is, more or less, what I expected before asking the question, indirectly.

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SN: 154210 dates to 1915 according to the database. (Sorry, I was thinking of another rifle I have when I said 1926.)

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Interesting. I was looking for an example and came across the following old post from another forum (granted regarding a ’94) from Bert:

In the year 1949 (when your Model 94 Carbine was manufactured), Winchester would drill & tap the receiver for a peep sight on special order only. The most common receiver peep sight was the Lyman No. 56 or No. 66. Winchester would install a Redfield peep sight if it was specifically ordered by the customer.

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You can determine if it was factory installed by temporarily dismounting the sight and examining the holes drilled & tapped in the receiver side-wall. If they are factory work, the hole entrances will be perfectly smooth and clean, and the tapped threads will be blued. If the tapped holes are in the white, they were put there after the fact.

Bert H.

Don’t know if the same might apply to a ’86 or even a ’92 (coincidentally my other thread). Or if the data has changed opinions since that post (about 3 years ago).

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Interesting. I was looking for an example and came across the following old post from another forum (granted regarding a ’94) from Bert:

In the year 1949 (when your Model 94 Carbine was manufactured), Winchester would drill & tap the receiver for a peep sight on special order only. The most common receiver peep sight was the Lyman No. 56 or No. 66. Winchester would install a Redfield peep sight if it was specifically ordered by the customer.
Bert H.

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You can determine if it was factory installed by temporarily dismounting the sight and examining the holes drilled & tapped in the receiver side-wall. If they are factory work, the hole entrances will be perfectly smooth and clean, and the tapped threads will be blued. If the tapped holes are in the white, they were put there after the fact.
Bert H.

Don’t know if the same might apply to a ’86 or even a ’92 (coincidentally my other thread). Or if the data has changed opinions since that post (about 3 years ago).

Yes, it does apply.

Bert

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