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"Outstanding Winchester 1866" critique
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October 31, 2017 - 10:24 pm
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Outstanding? Hardly! The, as described, 99% original blue is weak, nowhere near 99%. As far as 100% original. Well, it has a Model 1876 rear sight. Further critique welcome!

https://www.pookandpook.com/lot/outstanding-winchester-model-1866-carbine-3178942

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October 31, 2017 - 11:21 pm
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Its got a 1876 sight since they have pictures of a 76 with the 66 pictures.

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 I like it, I see a $10,000 gun. In the 66 market the “brass” is more important than the blue. This gun has killer “brass”, butterscotch, mustard colored, clean, sharp with all it’s original patina. You cannot duplicate  the snow flake look. The wood is unsanded, clean, with excellent fit, you do not see that on a 1870 gun. The blue is not 99%, but nice and original. The sight is correct, the 76 sight is on the next gun, the pictures are mixed up. Judging only from the pictures, I see a very nice original 147 year old 1866 SRC that anyone  would be proud of. That said, you have to have it in your hand to know if it’s honest. T/R

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Hard to argue with the description, compared to most of the 1866 carbines I’ve seen for sale it is indeed “outstanding” if the pics are accurate. JMHO, of course but I like it.

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Actually, now that I realize that the 1866 is a carbine (with round barrel) and that the sight labeled 1876 is on an octagon barreled firearm, it is obviously not the same firearm. Somehow, I missed this.

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This is one of the nicer 1866 SRCs I’ve seen, at least judging from the photos.

I find the wrist wood is usually quite undersized. 

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TR said
 …the snow flake look…

Please define and describe this.

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 When you zoom in on the brass you will see a pattern of light and darker color in a flake design. This butterscotch look is impossible to fake, you will also see it on 73 and 76 elevators. With age and exposure to the elements it will darken and become more visible. It does not take much to remove, a lot of handling or rubbing with a rag will polish it off. When handling 66’s, touch the wood or steel not the “brass”. You will only see this on nice unworn gun metal. At the last Tulsa show on a dealers table, I saw a 66 with a fake spray on coating, very easy to tell it was fake. T/R   

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Numerous nicks and dings on both the “brass” and the wood.  Some rust on the barrel, especially aft of the rear sight.  Excellent condition for a Model 1866 Carbine but certainly not 99% – that’s just the salesman’s hype.

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I think the receiver had been cleaned at some point. Hammered at $11,000 and with 22% buyer’s premium, the total would be $13,420 plus 6% sales tax.  However, was a “pass” as the reserve was not met. Bluing was perhaps 25%.

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