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Original Winchester 1886 Mag Tube Attachment
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December 5, 2021 - 11:49 pm
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I was looking at an original 1886 lightweight yesterday. Actually I say lightweight but I’m not sure that’s the correct technical term for the rifle but it was a .33wcf, 22 or 24” barrel, solid frame, and short mag that ended a couple inches past the end of the forearm. In my inspection of the rifle, I noticed the mag tube plug screw was not screwed into the barrel, though it did look like there was a threaded hole there for it to go into. I tried to move the screw with my fingers (I didn’t have a screwdriver with me) to see if it was loose and had just backed out but I couldn’t. So I don’t know if something is buggered and the screw can’t be screwed back into the barrel or if it’s a simple fix or what.

BUT, my question is…..

Is the mag tube also secured to the rifle by being threaded into the receiver? Or is that little screw pretty much it? I’ve read on some full mag tube 1886s the mags were not threaded into the receiver, but on this later 1901 lightweight rifle I can’t tell if it is or not. If it is, then if I couldn’t get that screw to screw into the barrel like it’s supposed to it wouldn’t bother me as much if I do but the gun.

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Hello Wesley,

The Model 1886 rifles made in 33 WCF were not ever officially referred to as a “lightweight”. Shortly after Winchester introduced the 33 WCF caliber for the Model 1886 (in 1902), a mechanical change was made to the magazine tubes and receiver frames. Specifically, the magazine tubes and receivers on the Solid frame rifles were threaded together versus the older “slip fitted tubes”. To denote the change, Winchester added a stamped “A” on the lower tang after the serial number (see the attached picture).

What is the serial number on the subject rifle?

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Thanks Bert.

it looks to be 128352. I don’t have the gun in hand, only a not so good pic I took, and I don’t see an A.

The tag on the gun shows it as a 1901, so I assume that is either wrong or the reciever was made before the 33 wcf was introduced.

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S/N 128353 was manufactured in the latter half of the year 1903, and just before Winchester made the change to the threaded magazine tubes, Thus far, the earliest serial number I have verified on a solid frame rifle with the “A” marking is 128723. That stated, I have found several solid frame rifles up into the 129800 range that have the old style slip fit magazine tubes. Somewhere very near serial number 130000 all solid frame Model 1886s have the “A” stamped after the serial number (February 1904).

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first of all let me say i love you guys. very informative. on the subject of threaded mag tubes, things must be differant in Canada. i own a 86 in33WCF. 1907 vintage. not only is it not threaded , it actually came apart ounce. i had a longer retaining screw made. it has a “A” in the serial number. food for thought. it looks new and only had at half box of Remington clean bore through it.. i have the half box , faded as it is.lol

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86can said
first of all let me say i love you guys. very informative. on the subject of threaded mag tubes, things must be differant in Canada. i own a 86 in33WCF. 1907 vintage. not only is it not threaded , it actually came apart ounce. i had a longer retaining screw made. it has a “A” in the serial number. food for thought. it looks new and only had at half box of Remington clean bore through it.. i have the half box , faded as it is.lol

  

What is the serial number on your Model 1886?  Does it have a full length, or a 1/2 mag ?

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hi Bert. serial number 143xxx etc. It has a full length mag tube. when i get time ill put some pics up for you.Its 1906 i guess. i had to check the date.

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86can said
hi Bert. serial number 143xxx etc. It has a full length mag tube. when i get time ill put some pics up for you. Its 1906 i guess. i had to check the date.

  

I suspect that it is a 1908 production rifle based on the partial serial number you mention.

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