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I saw this model 64 on GunBroker , seller claims it’s original condition , doesn’t look like it to me . What do you experts say ?
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
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Bert H. said
Post the link to the GB auction listing.
Not really sure how to do that ?
November 7, 2015
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What I can see looks good but I understand your concerns with the receiver. A link to more pics would be helpful.
Mike
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Post the link to the GB auction listing.
Not really sure how to do that ?
Done… and if the auction link I posted is the rifle in question, I do not believe that it has been refinished.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
TXGunNut said
What I can see looks good but I understand your concerns with the receiver. A link to more pics would be helpful.
Mike
Mike , The rifle in question is the one that Bert posted the link to , I couldn’t figure out how to post that link ….
Chris
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
Chris Sterling said
TXGunNut said
What I can see looks good but I understand your concerns with the receiver. A link to more pics would be helpful.
Mike
Mike , The rifle in question is the one that Bert posted the link to , I couldn’t figure out how to post that link ….
Chris
Mike , What do you think ???
From what I can see in those those two pictures you posted, a nice high condition original finish 64. Looks good!
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Chris D said
From what I can see in those those two pictures you posted, a nice high condition original finish 64. Looks good!
You don’t think the proof mark looks suspicious, no silver halo ???
November 7, 2015
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Receiver looks almost too good to be true, a bit of extra polish and almost no wear on the high spots where I would expect to find it. I think the 64 often had a bit higher level of polish. The “soft case” wear near the muzzle makes me think this is likely a well-cared-for rifle or a very skillful refinish…but that level of refinish would cost as much as the price shown. If it belonged to me you wouldn’t be able to buy it for that.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Receiver looks almost too good to be true, a bit of extra polish and almost no wear on the high spots where I would expect to find it. I think the 64 often had a bit higher level of polish. The “soft case” wear near the muzzle makes me think this is likely a well-cared-for rifle or a very skillful refinish…but that level of refinish would cost as much as the price shown. If it belonged to me you wouldn’t be able to buy it for that.
Mike
Mike , Shouldn’t there be a silver lining around the proof mark and the serial # ?
Chris Sterling said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
No, I do not believe that it has been reblued… its appearance is typical of a post-WW II production Winchester.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
No, I do not believe that it has been reblued… its appearance is typical of a post-WW II production Winchester.
I thought they stamped the proof mark after the rifle was blued ?
November 7, 2015
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Chris Sterling said
TXGunNut said
Receiver looks almost too good to be true, a bit of extra polish and almost no wear on the high spots where I would expect to find it. I think the 64 often had a bit higher level of polish. The “soft case” wear near the muzzle makes me think this is likely a well-cared-for rifle or a very skillful refinish…but that level of refinish would cost as much as the price shown. If it belonged to me you wouldn’t be able to buy it for that.
Mike
Mike , Shouldn’t there be a silver lining around the proof mark and the serial # ?
Chris-
The area around the serial number and proof stamps is raised, there is very little wear on any raised area on the receiver. The wear near the muzzle tells me it has been slid out of a soft case dozens of times and is the only remarkable wear that I can see. I’m no expert but I think we’re looking at an honest gun here, owned by someone who took very good care of it.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Chris Sterling said
TXGunNut said
Receiver looks almost too good to be true, a bit of extra polish and almost no wear on the high spots where I would expect to find it. I think the 64 often had a bit higher level of polish. The “soft case” wear near the muzzle makes me think this is likely a well-cared-for rifle or a very skillful refinish…but that level of refinish would cost as much as the price shown. If it belonged to me you wouldn’t be able to buy it for that.
Mike
Mike , Shouldn’t there be a silver lining around the proof mark and the serial # ?
Chris-
The area around the serial number and proof stamps is raised, there is very little wear on any raised area on the receiver. The wear near the muzzle tells me it has been slid out of a soft case dozens of times and is the only remarkable wear that I can see. I’m no expert but I think we’re looking at an honest gun here, owned by someone who took very good care of it.
Mike
Okay thanks Mike !
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
No, I do not believe that it has been reblued… its appearance is typical of a post-WW II production Winchester.
I thought they stamped the proof mark after the rifle was blued ?
Winchester did stamp the proof marks after the gun was finished, fully assembled, and test fired. The Du-light bluing for whatever reason was less prone to discoloration when the proof marks were stamped than the pervious (older) carbonia bluing.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
No, I do not believe that it has been reblued… its appearance is typical of a post-WW II production Winchester.
I thought they stamped the proof mark after the rifle was blued ?
Winchester did stamp the proof marks after the gun was finished, fully assembled, and test fired. The Du-light bluing for whatever reason was less prone to discoloration when the proof marks were stamped than the pervious (older) carbonia bluing.
Oh okay , when did they start using the du-light blueing and did they use it on all of their rifles ?
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Chris Sterling said
Chris Sterling said
Bert H. said
Is this the rifle in question – Winchester Model 64 standard rifle – .30 WCF – 1949 – Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1080197905
If not, post the link to the GB auction listing.
Bert
Yes , that is the one .
Bert , What is your opinion , reblued ???
No, I do not believe that it has been reblued… its appearance is typical of a post-WW II production Winchester.
I thought they stamped the proof mark after the rifle was blued ?
Winchester did stamp the proof marks after the gun was finished, fully assembled, and test fired. The Du-light bluing for whatever reason was less prone to discoloration when the proof marks were stamped than the pervious (older) carbonia bluing.
Oh okay , when did they start using the du-light blueing and did they use it on all of their rifles ?
For the Model 94 & 64, it was early 1939 (February). I do not know when exactly it was first used on most other models.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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