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wow, never saw anything like it.

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deerhunter said
Wonder how you unscrew/tighten the magazine tube??

https://www.cabelas.com/product/gun-library/winchester-gun-library%7C/pc/103792680/c/103589280/winchester-94-takedown-32-win-spl/2831151.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fwinchester-gun-library%2F_%2FN-1103078%2FNo-720%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103589280%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNP%26recordsPerPage%3D80  

Looks like the push button against the barrel band holds the magazine tube in position. Would like to examine this rifle, to figure out if it’s a factory takedown. I feel it’s a clever talented gunsmith’s work.

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Vince said

Looks like the push button against the barrel band holds the magazine tube in position. Would like to examine this rifle, to figure out if it’s a factory takedown. I feel it’s a clever talented gunsmith’s work.  

There’s an added set screw on top of the barrel band nearest the muzzle.  I bet if you loosen that set screw, along with the side screw and the vertical screw to the bottom of the muzzle, the magazine tube just slides out.  Just my guess.  Wonder what happens if you forget to tighten a screw or two…

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It not a factory Take Down Carbine. That said, it is not a one-of-a-kind gunsmith special either. There are several others out there just like it, or very similar. Somebody made up at least a half dozen of them.

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No they are not factory.  And as Bert mentioned, there is likely only a hand full or so of them known.  The Cabelas example is the second one that I have seen, heard of a couple others out there.  My dad owned one for years but in 30-30.  The TD mechanism is pretty ingenious and efficient.  You press the button on the bottom of the magazine tube, push it under the retaining band, pull the magazine forward in the direction of the muzzle, open the lever, then unthread the barrel from the receiver.  Not sure what the set screw is on top of the magazine retaining band in the Cabelas other than maybe a set screw to hold the band in place if the magazine tube is removed.  The one my dad owned did not have that set screw.  You can also see where the top of the magazine tube is milled to act like a stop against the retaining band, the magazine tube could only be moved forward about an inch, just enough for the magazine tube to clear the receiver.  It has “D H” stamped on the lower tang just in front the trigger, assumed to be the initials of the person who built it. No other markings on it anywhere indicating who made it.

The one below is SN 2475162

 

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Chris,

Thank you very much for posting the pictures!  Bob Renneberg has a couple of them in his collection.  I suspect that there could be as many as 1 – 2 dozen of them out there.  The sophistication of the work suggests a highly skilled machinist was involved in the conversion.

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I think my dad may have sold this one to Mr Renneberg. 

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This type of convertion was done by gunsmith Roland Jorgensen.  He did an article about it an NRA publication many years ago.

I suspect many people have used his article to do this conversion. 

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Buy the kit and do it yourself! Inspired by Jorgensen.

 

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Thanks Dominic and Steve.  I had heard there was an article out there about these but hadnt been able to get my hands on a copy. 

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1892takedown said
Thanks Dominic and Steve.  I had heard there was an article out there about these but hadnt been able to get my hands on a copy.   

I remember seeing this article. I think it was in book called Gunsmithing Guide printed by the NRA.

If you verify this let me know. I will do the same.

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